Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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I honestly can’t understand how anyone who actually voted for Brexit, sold on the litany of lies that have since unravelled like a Primani T shirt after 3 washes, can still actually truly believe that there’s sunlit uplands just over the horizon.

Literally every supposed positive has been shown to be untrue, from ‘not one job will be lost’ through to ‘we’ll get a great deal, maybe even better than the one we already have’.

The problem with Brexit is Brexit. It’s the most pointless act of National self harm in history.
Immigrants and superiority complex.
 
Immigrants and superiority complex.
Not even immigrants though. As whilst EU net immigration has dropped off a cliff, the drop has been offset by a huge increase in non EU migrants.

I’m sure those who voted due to immigrants saw the sunlit uplands as being more brown ones and Muslims lol.

So we’re left with a misunderstanding of what Sovereignty actually is, and English exceptionalism. So worth it.
 
I honestly can’t understand how anyone who actually voted for Brexit, sold on the litany of lies that have since unravelled like a Primani T shirt after 3 washes, can still actually truly believe that there’s sunlit uplands just over the horizon.

Literally every supposed positive has been shown to be untrue, from ‘not one job will be lost’ through to ‘we’ll get a great deal, maybe even better than the one we already have’.

The problem with Brexit is Brexit. It’s the most pointless act of National self harm in history.

Indeed, they can't deliver what was promised, no cake and eating it all, not even crumbs.
 
Totally Pete, hence me saying a no deal or WTO is a bad deal for us all, I include the EU in that. I think the general feeling is there will be a deal and with a little comprise we can see its close.

You know, I might have voted the other way to you, but I do get your point. Now is the time to get behind them and get us a good deal, with whoever that may be. The line is drawn and cant be moved, so its happening. The Japan deal is terrible, let's be honest, but what impressed me was the speed. If we can turn deals round that fast, that's the hope.

I think its all very fragile. It really wouldn't take much to go sour, but leave or remain, we'll all be bailing out the boat or sinking together.

EXW, couldn't remember that one! A lot of raw materials on those. FOB I used to use for all my outside of EU. I think I did DDP once, couldnt say which country now, did well to remember FCA. :)

The Japanese have yet to ratify the trade deal with the UK in it's own Parliament. It might well decide not to if the UK Government breaks the withdrawal agreement and thus cannot be trusted or Japan being unclear of what's going on might just postpone ratification...
 
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