Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Bruce Wayne]

who ignore referendum and General Election results

So presumably you oppose your government acting as it is against a deal that was voted on by both parliament and the public? I mean you're not the kind of bloke who only supports democracy when it suits, so I'm sure on the very principle you believe it stinks to high heaven?

 

[peteblue]

I never said that about Remainers. It says a lot about you that you often resort to changing the argument in order to try and ‘win’.
The leave campaign repeatedly lied about what it could do and what it would do. You voted for that. Johnson and the Tories are lying and backtracking on a deal that they told people to base their GE vote on. They are liars. You got conned by them. You have never shown close to a sound argument as to why you voted leave except for ‘get behind Britain’ or similar nonsense.
Do you still have faith in Johnson? Do you not mind that he, and the Tories lied, repeatedly?

And considering you’ve previously said German politicians follow in the footsteps of the Nazi party I am not going to feel too bad about calling a lot of Leavers Xenephobic.

I treated both Remain and Leave as liars. You go on about Tories lying, yet surely you remember it was a Tory Government who spearheaded the Remain campaign.

I have a lot of faith in Johnson and David Frost negotiating on behalf of the people of the U.K.

German politicians always do what is best for Germany. Some of ours are just beginning to get over their simple naive views of the world and do similar for the U.K.....

 

[peteblue]

I want it to fail cos I want to see rees Morgue and the backers of brexit lose a lot of money. I know they will pass their losses onto the rest of us and I hope that that then causes huge civil unrest leading to the overthrow of Eton school and the whole class system, born into privilege bs.

This has to be the most stupid post put up by a remainer. Bravo sir...amongst a plethora of remain stupid posts you have shown the way......

 

[peteblue]

So presumably you oppose your government acting as it is against a deal that was voted on by both parliament and the public? I mean you're not the kind of bloke who only supports democracy when it suits, so I'm sure on the very principle you believe it stinks to high heaven?

Bruce, if Parliament throws out the new bill, so be it. Playing hardball with the EU is to be congratulated. I’m not fool enough to believe that Boris hasn’t picked up on a stupid statement from Barnier and immediately turned to his advantage to convince people to support this bill. It was probably pre prepared and just waiting for Barnier to do so. we have left the EU, I would like a good deal with them, but I support us being just as ruthless as they are in order to achieve a good outcome for everyone in the U.K......

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Bruce, if Parliament throws out the new bill, so be it. Playing hardball with the EU is to be congratulated. I’m not fool enough to believe that Boris hasn’t picked up on a stupid statement from Barnier and immediately turned to his advantage to convince people to support this bill. It was probably pre prepared and just waiting for Barnier to do so. we have left the EU, I would like a good deal with them, but I support us being just as ruthless as they are in order to achieve a good outcome for everyone in the U.K......

Do you believe negotiations to be zero-sum affairs? Do you believe that our actions with the EU will not be noticed by the rest of the world and have no impact on future interactions with others?

 

[Tea_drinker]

This has to be the most stupid post put up by a remainer. Bravo sir...amongst a plethora of remain stupid posts you have shown the way......

Not stupid at all. I simply want to do away with the establishment and the political elitists. You know the type.

 

[roydo]

I treated both Remain and Leave as liars.

Interesting.

So you believed the lies that underpinned your pre conceived bias? Despite knowing them to be lies?

 

[peteblue]

Interesting.

So you believed the lies that underpinned your pre conceived bias? Despite knowing them to be lies?

That isn’t what I said. I believed what I determined was correct....

 

[peteblue]

Not stupid at all. I simply want to do away with the establishment and the political elitists. You know the type.

Fair enough......

 

[peteblue]

Do you believe negotiations to be zero-sum affairs? Do you believe that our actions with the EU will not be noticed by the rest of the world and have no impact on future interactions with others?

Bruce, I believe quite a few countries who have ‘negotiated’ with the EU will heartily welcome our approach to them.....

 

[roydo]

That isn’t what I said. I believed what I determined was correct....

It was exactly what you said.

 

[peteblue]

It was exactly what you said.

I said I regarded both Remain and Leavers as liars.....

 

[The binman chronicles]

Not stupid at all. I simply want to do away with the establishment and the political elitists. You know the type.

Problem with that though is the people with the money stand to make more money from the chaos. They'll have moved investments from the UK, probably put a load of money in European manufacturers and will reap the rewards. Might even create new companies if it all goes to pot at the point we try to negotiate our way back into the EU. Win on the way down and make more when things pick up.

 

[dead_soft]

I treated both Remain and Leave as liars. You go on about Tories lying, yet surely you remember it was a Tory Government who spearheaded the Remain campaign.

I have a lot of faith in Johnson and David Frost negotiating on behalf of the people of the U.K.

German politicians always do what is best for Germany. Some of ours are just beginning to get over their simple naive views of the world and do similar for the U.K.....

The leave campaign lied and played on undue fears to get their message across. Brexit will only help the very rich and appease those, like some here, who love the sweet taste of posh boots.

What exactly gives you faith in Johnson? Everything he has done has been a dramatic failure, apart from getting fools to vote for him.

Peter, it is you who has the outdated and naive views. Repeatedly you have shown yourself up as being unable to follow anything or offer any argument apart from trite patriotism and borderline jingoistic views of other nations. Your narrow-minded little Englander worldview is outmoded, it should be laid out to pasture and you can step in to a less naive view that isn't hell bent on believing that because you were born somewhere you were better. They sell patriotism because they have nothing of worth to sell you.

 

[Hickson9]

There is no point arguing with Pete. You aren't going to change his mind.

I made my peace with that a while ago.

The Bill is probably going to make it to Royal Assent. The lunatics are running the asylum and there is nothing we can do about it.

Let's just hope we actually agree a trade deal with the EU that will protects people's livelihoods and living standards. A no deal Brexit following on from the impact of Covid-19 will be very damaging.