Current Affairs EU In or Out
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I would happily see them go,if they voted that way .
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
so back to the question, are you a unionist ?...
peteblue
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It did seem odd yesterday that those claiming the dastardly EU would use the deadline and threat of no deal against us and the 'surrender Act' would mean concessions that will result in a worse deal than the one the PM resigned over, were simultaneously pumping the message that this all a massive win for Johnson.So this deal's going well then....
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No idea...
Probably enough noughts haven't been put on the cheque to the DUP yet. A staunch party of the Union cant be bought for less than £12 Billion these days.
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I think we all now see what the name of the game was in replacing May with Johnson: the former could never sell a surrender deal to the Tory Party, the latter can.
This is not uncommon with the EU either. Generally right populists often sell out far more as they can get away with it.
It's going to be interesting seeing the fallout. The ERG face two poor options. The first danger is that they risk losing power and destroying their party. The 2nd is they lose credibility and have to sign Britain up for a weaker Brexit deal. In all fairness it's hard to predict which of the above is the lesser evils.
The fact that Johnson is not like a robot may help in the discussions.
It won't get through Parliament in any event. But it's genuinely sad to see people promised something they thought would be glorious and return us to empire, now complicit in possibly the break up the union and accepting any old muck deal because of a mutual embarrassment factor of Johnson needing to save face and those pinning their hopes on him having to do the same, lest they look like Remainers have won or give any sort of impression that this was not all part of the master plan.
As much as leave 'won the vote' they have very much lost the subsequent debate. Nobody is talking about 'clean break' Brexit anymore after Yellowhammer, nobody is talking about Norway+, nobody is talking about 'not leaving the single market... in fact nobody is actually throwing up any positives anymore as they've all been categorically disproved - including the guff about Sovereignty.
All anybody is now championing is 'people want Brexit done' which is sounding more and more desperate by the day. It will sound worse when the PM has to go back to the EU to request an extension and we are left to the EU to determine if that is acceptable.
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peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Boris does have a certain ability to take people with him.....
So did Charles Manson.
peteblue
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Weasel words. Remainers only interest throughout the whole of the last three years or so has been to undermine the U.K. position and attempt to reverse the outcome of the referendum......
Yeah off a cliff usually followed by being sacked from every job hes had, looks like the sames happening....
No progress was made on a new deal with the EU before the Benn Act was brought in and Gina Miller brought her case to the Supreme Court. If any deal is reached, Gina Miller and Hilary Benn should take the credit for forcing the government to act swiftly.
You should be saying a great big thank you to Hilary Benn and Gina Miller.
*On their behalf, you're welcome.
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