Much as it might suit your argument, I suspect that bending the rules for a country somewhat smaller than Widnes is a little bit different than with a country of over 60 million inhabitants.
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All things are possible depending on how it effects Germany......
"French president Francois Hollande, German chancellor Angela Merkel and Italian prime minister Matteo Renzi will hold "a summit or a meeting" at the end of August, Hollande announced on Wednesday during a cabinet meeting. The three leaders, who already met in Berlin after the Brexit vote at the end of June, intend to make proposals for the future of the EU-27 after the UK exit."
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Airbus
The fact is access to the single market does not always require free movement of people.
America has access but no free movement of people.
"About a fifth of all cars produced in Germany last year, or around 820,000 vehicles, were exported to the UK, making it the single biggest destination by volume."
The fact is access to the single market does not always require free movement of people.
America has access but no free movement of people.
"About a fifth of all cars produced in Germany last year, or around 820,000 vehicles, were exported to the UK, making it the single biggest destination by volume."
peteblue
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Airbus was never going to do anything other than to keep running its many engineering and manufacturing plants within the UK....
In respect of the Germqn car Industry I think I read that about 700,000 German jobs rely upon those sales to the UK, but I'm sure that this will have no effect upon any Brexit negotiations.........
I guess the point I was trying to make is that this is a discussion that needs to be had, regardless of the origins of particular people in our society. Even with no migrants, if machines take away a lot of low-skilled work then the lot of the poorly educated is not going to be a good one.
For the record, I am largely in favour of automation. With cars, for instance, they will be considerably safer, make transportation greener and more affordable, whilst offering mobility to a wider range of people and increasing the productivity of the world enormously. But they will take away the largest profession for lowly skilled males in the western world (driving). That's just one industry, and I'm not sure policy makers are really on top of the repercussions yet.
I'm very much in favour of facing reality rather than shying away from it, and regard technological advancement as positive for the world as the free movement of people is. Just as the luddites didn't improve their lot by smashing the looms, I don't think smashing the EU will improve the lot of the poorly skilled people in Britain today.
David Davies the new Brexit minister goes to China and knocks on the door and asks the Chinese for a trade agreement. The first thing the Chinese say is, 'can we dump steel in the UK'. Davies says, 'no you cannot'. The Chinese turn around and say, 'close the door on your way out'.
Dodgy Dave thinks you are not quite correct.
"Britain acted as the ringleader in blocking attempts to regulate cheap Chinese steel entering Europe, despite warnings that the continent’s steel industry was in crisis, the European Steel Association (Eurofer) has said.
Charles de Lusignan, a spokesman for Eurofer, which represents steel production in the European Union, said the organisation had argued for the lifting of thelesser duty rule, which prevents increased tariffs being placed on cheap imports to the EU from China.
“The fact is that the UK has been blocking this. They are not the only member state, but they are certainly the ringleader in blocking the lifting of the lesser duty rule,” he told the BBC’s Today programme.
“The ability to lift this was part of a proposal that the European commission launched in 2013, and the fact that the UK continues to block it means that when the government says it’s doing everything it can to save the steel industry in the UK and also in Europe, it’s not. It’s not true.
De Lusignan’s comments on Friday came as it emerged that Tim Morris, Tata Steel’s head of public affairs, warned the Welsh affairs committee in February that the chancellor, George Osborne, was pushing for China to get market economy status at the World Trade Organization, which would protect Beijing from the highest EU trade barriers, and that this could exacerbate the continent’s steel crisis."
It was the UK government, not the EU, that enabled Chinese steel into the Eu and hence into the UK.
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It definitely does need to be had but don't think this is a problem that will not effect all educational levels of society. The poorly educated are just the first that will feel the brunt but only the corporate ownership class will ultimately be immune from the change.
Call me backwards. I just think these questions need to be answered first before embarking on mass movement that will change a society forever.
Well the USA just slapped a 50 percent import on steel no need to go near China
Why not shackled by a narrow EU curruption parliament
Well the USA just slapped a 50 percent import on steel no need to go near China
Why not shackled by a narrow EU curruption parliament
bit hypocritical by the yanks.
Back in the day - bear in mind how close we are to Sheffield. I'd ring up my Engineering supplies seller to order some key steel, which is precision stuff and they'd send me out stuff labelled 'made in the usa'
Exactly they preserved protected their steel industry we are restricted because the EU polictical elite sold our steel industry's down the river! With a pathetic levy unfair fuel prices to produce it!
Get it right Joey. The UK government didn't want any restrictions on Chinese steel coming into the EU/UK. Could have had something to do with the £1 billion Chinese investment in Manchester.
"The Government has been accused of “failing to protect” British steel by blocking EU plans to impose tougher sanctions on “aggressive” Chinese steel dumping while the industry stands on the brink of collapse.
EU Council working party papers seen show the UK is one of 14 countries that, as early as 2014, were seeking to block the EU from axing the so-called “lesser duty” rule, which could allow increased tariffs to be placed on cheap imports".
Indeed. It's early days on this one yet but already certain news stories are being written by bots (i.e. automatically).
The ex chancellor Gideon has paid the price rightly with his job as May sets to butcher the Nottinghill set let see if we can get our manufacturing back in years to come!
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