Current Affairs EU In or Out

[tim cahill]

given whats gone on since, perhaps it is, yes.

What's happened since is the Tory party have lost credibility and opposition parties have united against them.

 

[davek]

Whats Labour's policy on Brexit?..........
watch Thornberry 20 minutes form the end as clear as mud......

You'll find out what it is for sure soon. It wont be what Thornberry blurted out on a talk show.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

erm more like over 200 Labour Mps whipped into it.

You don't think the huge number of remain voters deserve any representation in parliament?

 

[Kev The Rat]

You don't think the huge number of remain voters deserve any representation in parliament?

Labour agreed to respect the result of the referendum in their last manifesto.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

What's happened since is the Tory party have lost credibility and opposition parties have united against them.

The role of parliament is to hold government accountable, what makes Conservative Government or Brexit special cases is neither here or there. Besides there were plenty of ERG DUP who undermined their own PM.

 

[Kev The Rat]

The role of parliament is to hold government accountable, what makes Conservative Government or Brexit special cases is neither here or there. Besides there were plenty of ERG DUP who undermined their own PM.

does that extend to collusion with the EU?

MPs 'checked with EU chiefs over Brexit delay' before passing bill

MPs prepare for legal battle in case PM attempts to defy law forcing him to ask for extension

www.theguardian.com

 

[The binman chronicles]

The role of parliament is to hold government accountable, what makes Conservative Government or Brexit special cases is neither here or there. Besides there were plenty of ERG DUP who undermined their own PM.

That's what they are doing though, yes leave but go get an acceptable deal. Johnson was supposed to breathe fresh impetus into the negotiations but hasn't even tried. He was always going to go for a no deal.

 

[davek]

I don't think they will - any General Election campaign by Labour is going to point out how false, how damaging this reduction of people's political views to LEAVE and REMAIN is, as if they have no other thoughts. The Tories, BP and Lib Dems will all go the other way, which will result in Labour being the only party that actually talks about those other issues in a credible way (the Tories will talk about them too of course, but its hard to say you are taking education seriously when you've been in charge of it for nine years).

Yes, I reckon over the course of a 5 week election campaign the Brexit issue will be sidelined for much of it. There's no way the Tories (especially these Tories in charge now) can argue any convincing case on bread and butter issues. They will be open goals for Labour in particular to exploit.

Cummings and Johnson et al are betting the house on people being furious with a failure to get Brexit resolved. Some will be and they'll vote acccordingly. Most will be voting on other matters.

Id also say that the complete rupturing of the Tory Party and the expulsion of many on its traditional "moderate" wing and the cowing of others still in the party will hit them badly on the doorstep and during the ballot. I could easily be persuaded to see the coming election as a landslide away from Johnson, and that the Brexit Party will possibly vie for at least a similar share of the vote with the Tory Party (though that wont be translated into many constituencies for them).

 

[Kev The Rat]

That's what they are doing though, yes leave but go get an acceptable deal. Johnson was supposed to breathe fresh impetus into the negotiations but hasn't even tried. He was always going to go for a no deal.

forced to do so because Labour would never support whatever deal he came back with.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Labour agreed to respect the result of the referendum in their last manifesto.

Respecting the result of the referendum means the UK leaves. Both Tory and Labour party called for an orderly exit.

Only the ERG and Brexit Party want no deal. If I had voted to leave, based on the discussion prior to the referendum, I'd feel pretty disrespected to be told the deal that was promised has been vetoed by those pursuing a No Deal for their own interests.

 

[Kev The Rat]

Respecting the result of the referendum means the UK leaves. Both Tory and Labour party called for an orderly exit.

Only the ERG and Brexit Party want no deal. If I had voted to leave, based on the discussion prior to the referendum, I'd feel pretty disrespected to be told the deal that was promised has been vetoed by those pursuing a No Deal for their own interests.

i actually agree and that is why Labour had no business vetoing May's deal.

 

[orchard]

i actually agree and that is why Labour had no business vetoing May's deal.

Of course they did, May refused to compromise on standards.

 

[The binman chronicles]

forced to do so because Labour would never support whatever deal he came back with.

Who knows. Personally I have always held the belief that there is no deal that can work without tearing up the UK, but he could have least of tried and come out with the truth. We can do this but it means this (hard border in Ireland) and because they haven't specifically said this because they don't want to upset the leavers is why you get people like @peteblue thinking that there is an easy alternative, when there isn't.

 

[LouReedwalkonthewildside]

George Soros.

No really, it's Soros.

Supposedly she didn't know he was funding the remain campaign

 

[degsy]

He has his monogrammed hanky up his sleeve ..........and that’s all
It’s his puppet master that does his thinking for him



The hanky is monogrammed in case he forgets his name

Who is this Geppetto then