Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Blues Harp]

It has to be that way. I think the public understand that too, because the whole country knows what a massive liar Johnsion is. He cant tell the truth. He cant be trusted.

And that's a massive problem for a party leader about to go to the country in the coming months. Maybe they should sack him?

Spot-on...and the people who hold him up as an honourable politician who "gets things done" have their heads buried in the sand......a bumbling, blustering excuse for a pm.

 

[davek]

The Clown's use of the police as a backdrop for his political sloganeering speech is a disgrace, btw. A PR trick he learned off that weapon Trump, no doubt.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I think the point is that freedom of movement allows low cost labour to move in and take the jobs at rates that domestic workers wont accept.
I am not sure if that is the case in Britain but in Ireland the majority of EU workers from outside Ireland would be in lower paid jobs.
There are however a significant portion who work in high paid jobs in the technology and social media sector
Much as it was in Britain in the 50s and 60s when the Irish and West Indian immigrants worked in lower paid jobs.
I am however all for the freedom of movement but not solely on economic grounds, as I believe Immigrants have added greatly to Irish culture and society in general

There is evidence for this, but just as we wouldn't stop trading because low-skilled work is exported overseas, we shouldn't restrict the movement of people. The key is to improve the skills of citizens here rather than try and insulate them from competition. If it's not migrants it will be offshoring. If it's not offshoring it will be automation. The common solution is to upskill the workforce, not pretend that things are hunky dory.

 

[tsubaki]

The Clown's use of the police as a backdrop for his political sloganeering speech is a disgrace, btw. A PR trick he learned off that weapon Trump, no doubt.

Absolutely. In an election campaign - which is what we are in, given he tried to get one yesterday and is trying to get one on Monday - it is absolutely and utterly forbidden:

http://library.college.police.uk/docs/appref/Pre-Election-Protocol-April-2017.pdf

 

[Moomin]

It has to be that way. I think the public understand that too, because the whole country knows what a massive liar Johnsion is. He cant tell the truth. He cant be trusted.

And that's a massive problem for a party leader about to go to the country in the coming months. Maybe they should sack him?

Even his own brother doesn't trust him.

 

[Kurt.]

I’m pretty open minded when it comes to Farage, a man of action like him, can only be a good thing.

I’m actually seeing him in a few weeks on the Brexit party tour. What in your opinion do you think needs to be guarded against?

Farage has setup the Brexit party to defend free speech and democracy in Britain.

Jesus fella... the only way you could be classed as open minded is because there appears to be a gaping space between your ears.

 

[roydo]

Jesus fella... the only way you could be classed as open minded is because there appears to be a gaping space between your ears.

He cant hear you Kurt.

 

[Brisan123]

There is evidence for this, but just as we wouldn't stop trading because low-skilled work is exported overseas, we shouldn't restrict the movement of people. The key is to improve the skills of citizens here rather than try and insulate them from competition. If it's not migrants it will be offshoring. If it's not offshoring it will be automation. The common solution is to upskill the workforce, not pretend that things are hunky dory.

I agree Bruce
Upskilling is a constant process though and to some people the new is daunting.
However what I have seen in Ireland is that those who have immigrated to Ireland are more open to upskilling in general as the see the possibilities of improving their standard of living.
There are those however who still believe that the old way is the best and machines will never replace them
Working in a factory that 35 years ago produced 30,000 tons of product with 1200 workers to a factory that produces 40,000 tons of product with 350 people I can tell you they are wrong
Freedom of movement however is about more than economic improvement ,its improves our knowledge.our culture and our understanding of the world

 

[davek]

Absolutely. In an election campaign - which is what we are in, given he tried to get one yesterday and is trying to get one on Monday - it is absolutely and utterly forbidden:

http://library.college.police.uk/docs/appref/Pre-Election-Protocol-April-2017.pdf

• During the pre-election period, is any activity by the police likely to affect or influence the outcome of the election
• Officers must avoid any action which is, or might reasonably be perceived as being, supportive of or oppositional to any party, candidate or opinion.
• Officers must avoid putting themselves in a position or situation which could be used by a candidate to support their campaign.

Guilty.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Dr David Nicholl is offering Rees Mogg to repeat in public what is said in Parliament about him being irresponsible, if he does he will sue him.

 

[davek]

PM visit 'an electioneering stunt'

House of Commons
Parliament
Labour MP Stephen Doughty asked for an explanation for why the prime minister attended a "clearly party political electioneering stunt" in Wakefield with police officers.
Raising a point of order in the Commons, he said: "This is clearly entirely inappropriate."
Mr Doughty said concerns have been raised before about a lack of police resources.
He added: "I think serious questions need to be asked about the use of police time in this way, potential politicisation of the police."

 

[Khalekan]

....except that what is said in a Parliament stays in Parliament (hence the saying ‘come outside and say that’). Saying that, you could be right and MPs have decided not to mention it.

lol



Rees Mogg made disparaging remarks about the neurologist Dr. Nicholl in Parliament today.

Dr. Nicholl is currently stood outside Westminster with a megaphone and says when Rees Mogg comes out he is going to use the megaphone to challenge the latter to repeat his remarks outside

And if he does, the good doctor will sue him lol

 

[roydo]

There is evidence for this, but just as we wouldn't stop trading because low-skilled work is exported overseas, we shouldn't restrict the movement of people. The key is to improve the skills of citizens here rather than try and insulate them from competition. If it's not migrants it will be offshoring. If it's not offshoring it will be automation. The common solution is to upskill the workforce, not pretend that things are hunky dory.

In my admittedly tiny sample size, (2), this week is the "delivery of Open University books" week, (They are very very heavy).

One to a young local single Mum who works as a dinner lady in a local school, lives in social housing.

One to a young East European girl, here with her (working) husband, lives in social housing.

We aint really any different.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Wonder how long it will take for the people who chose to believe his bluff and bluster to admit they’d been duped.
Blaming Corbyn FFS

 

[Kurt.]

He is heading the opposition to a government run by May who spent 3 years making a pigs ear of Brexit. A government now run by Boris who has no majority and as Labour keep saying ‘no mandate from the people’. When would be a good time for Corbyn to have an election ? If we have one before the end of Oct then at least the people can decide. If he makes more feeble excuses and waits until after yet another extension is granted or even worse after the extension has run out, then fingers will not be pointed at Boris because people will at least know he tried but had his legs cut away. There is no benefit to be gained by Corbyn, because he will be on the hook for the mess, but what will be will be.....

You’re just being obstinate for the sake of it now Pete... countless people have explained over and over the very valid reason behind labours rebuttal of an early election.