Current Affairs EU In or Out

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    Votes: 688 67.9%
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    Votes: 325 32.1%

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I honestly think Boris's approach was working, there was signs the EU would have to accept making concessions because they really don't want a no deal.

That's all going to get reversed now and the EU are going to end up in the strongest position they could ever wish for if that vote goes through tomorrow outlawing a no deal.

Thats rubbish, there is no negotiating, Boris is more than happy for us to crash out as him and his hedge fund friends/backers are raking it in betting against the £

 
Not sure that is the case, tbh.

Everyone goes on and on about "how much people like Boris", but there is really almost no evidence to suggest he is competent at anything - running a government, running a general election campaign, being Mayor of London, journalism, writing history, presenting HIGNFY or basically anything else. He had a free run at the Tory leadership and only won that against a load of nonentities by disappearing whilst leaving his backers in every major paper to chat nonsense everywhere on his behalf (and don't forget there is the actual tape of what his and Carrie Symonds row was about that is still to come out).

Now I have no doubt that in a GE the likes of Allison Pearson, Toby Young, Dan Hodges and the rest will be all over the place talking the same rubbish, the media will be full of the same fibs that it was last time, and the people who pay will stump up yet more fortunes to support the party. I also have no doubt that during the campaign he will say or do something that makes it abundantly clear what he is, some immense calamity that will render all the puff-pieces meaningless.

I mean, he is the first Prime Minister - ever - to lose their first vote and his response to it (kicking out some extremely long serving Tory MPs) will almost certainly mean he loses his next vote as well, and probably loads of the ones after that too. He has managed to in six weeks get Corbyn, Swinson, the SNP and Plaid from a position where they mutually loathe each other to the point where (as they did after the vote today) they repeat each others demands.

If he makes the election No Deal Brexit vs the rest, he will make it almost impossible for the opposition to not collaborate to oppose it.

He has been ready from the moment he stepped into no.10. All the soundbites, more police, more teachers, better hospitals and the pandering to the brexiteers. He's thrown everything out there and hopes something will stick with the public.
 
I understand your frustration but language like all MPs are scum really must be tempered.

Like in any walk of life the majority are decent people doing their best.

Talk of scum, traitors etc. invites violence and intimidation in to our system. We have already had one MP murdered, and many others threatened with such.

Of course, but simultaneously they have been tasked with a job for three years and haven't done it.

They're self-serving. I'm fed up of making excuses. People are fine with labelling BJ scum, and i'm fine with saying he's no worse off than the vast majority of the others.

Obviously what happened to Mrs Cox is awful and another example of lunatics on both sides. They get a lot of stick and it's hard to keep a lid on it sometimes and obviously even comments like mine are uncalled for. But they don't help themselves.
 
Boris offers Farage major seat in government. Brexit party target Labour Leave seats. Boris replaces Remoaners in decent Tory seats. BP leave Tory Leavers free run........
Ha Ha Ha.

You think Farage is after that? He could have had that a long time ago.

Farage is a giant ego. You just dont get it do you?
 
In the run up to an election it is very unwise of Johnson to kick out long standing members of Parliament and forcing out other well respected MPs too (Greening). Hes looking at a potential loss of 5-10 seats right there.
 
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