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dandydan
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tsubaki
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Not sure that is the case, tbh.
Everyone goes on and on about "how much people like Boris", but there is really almost no evidence to suggest he is competent at anything - running a government, running a general election campaign, being Mayor of London, journalism, writing history, presenting HIGNFY or basically anything else. He had a free run at the Tory leadership and only won that against a load of nonentities by disappearing whilst leaving his backers in every major paper to chat nonsense everywhere on his behalf (and don't forget there is the actual tape of what his and Carrie Symonds row was about that is still to come out).
Now I have no doubt that in a GE the likes of Allison Pearson, Toby Young, Dan Hodges and the rest will be all over the place talking the same rubbish, the media will be full of the same fibs that it was last time, and the people who pay will stump up yet more fortunes to support the party. I also have no doubt that during the campaign he will say or do something that makes it abundantly clear what he is, some immense calamity that will render all the puff-pieces meaningless.
I mean, he is the first Prime Minister - ever - to lose their first vote and his response to it (kicking out some extremely long serving Tory MPs) will almost certainly mean he loses his next vote as well, and probably loads of the ones after that too. He has managed to in six weeks get Corbyn, Swinson, the SNP and Plaid from a position where they mutually loathe each other to the point where (as they did after the vote today) they repeat each others demands.
If he makes the election No Deal Brexit vs the rest, he will make it almost impossible for the opposition to not collaborate to oppose it.
davek
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Who are at least elected and whose full time job it is to represent and be informed.
It is a system that has worked for hundreds of years.
We aren't Ancient Athens. We can't all gather together in a town square and debate every issue.
But we can't know the consequences until it happens?
In 2016, people said the country would go into a recession if we left. In 2019, people are still saying it. It's just one example but really, people are saying exactly the same stuff, so wheres does it stop?
I'm not having a go, I'm just so confused and fed up of it all.
If we have another vote, it surely must be on how to proceed with Brexit. They should have options on the table - i.e. No Deal, Deal. I'd like to think Deal would win easy. But it'd mean parliament would at least have to be unified in getting a deal done, not this nonsense now. I'm honestly just fed up of them all. They're all scum.
Agree on the second point. I thought - and said at the time - to a simpleton like me May's deal seemed doable. It kept free movement IIRC. But yeh, all the 'experts' who spend their days on Twitter and God knows how they actually make any money, didn't agree.
tsubaki
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Ostracism should be brought back though.
davek
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The GE will be a re-run of the referendum....and now the numbers are different.
Wanting the Tories to win!!
Well you do lie when you say you have never been banned. You will fit in well with Boris.
Don't think we will have a general election until no deal is off the table.
arminisgod
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The tories lost them to ukip or bee it. They will go back Tory now boris is the leader.
The l Reds will delay this bill.. The right wing press will whip up hysteria
I think you underestimate how much people don't want Corbyn in.
I understand your frustration but language like all MPs are scum really must be tempered.
Like in any walk of life the majority are decent people doing their best.
Talk of scum, traitors etc. invites violence and intimidation in to our system. We have already had one MP murdered, and many others threatened with such.
Toast
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