Current Affairs EU In or Out

[gonetomorrow]

Like every crackpot political project ever embarked upon, the failures of Brexit will never, ever be accepted as inherent, or its supporters and instigators to blame. They always have to find a scapegoat, some external saboteur that acted (or failed to act) to ruin what was destined to be glorious.

I'm not looking at the opposition as scapegoats. The scapegoat is David Cameron who caused all this trouble in the first place.

I'm saying that instead of leaving with a deal for better or worse, we're facing no deal and the opposition had the chance to avoid that.

Sometimes you have to make the best of a bad job and Labour, Lib Dems et al failed to do that. I'm a strong remainer, friend.

 

[larrygobfiend]

But the decision makers will just be us, the U.K., no votes from France, Slovakia, Spain, Croatia, Latvia, Estonia, Italy, Cyprus, Ireland, Germany, Romania, Malta or even Luxembourg, Belgium and Holland. Just us, doing what we want on our own.....

"Just us"

lollollol

 

[Chewbacca]

Why is this such an aspiration?

Because Pete believes that British people are of superior intellect to foreigners

But he’s not racist so that’s ok

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Because Pete believes that British people are of superior intellect to foreigners

But he’s not racist so that’s ok

As Kipling said, it's the white man's burden innit.

 

[Khalekan]

Because Pete believes that British people are of superior intellect to foreigners

But he’s not racist so that’s ok

I think he thinks English people are of superior intellect to the Scots, Welsh and Irish as well

 

[larrygobfiend]

I just like to make my own decisions.....

What decisions would you actually be making? It's all about protecting your own interests. That is the Tory way after all and it's clearly what you're all about.

 

[Aberblue]

Its the approaches to discussion that I like. So far I've noticed 3 categories:

• The Bull in the China Shop: come steaming on declaring everything is nonsense and full of bombast. Who then quietly leave when anyone asks them to describe something in detail or they embarrass themselves.
• The compelled observer: usually take the stance of 'i felt compelled to post' or 'have read this thread but not felt the need to post until now'. Usually tries to position themselves as a considered neutral and decries the insults and venom of remainers all the while issuing passive agressive condescending posts and liking/laughing at abuse from leave voters. Usually well informed but provide little detail of their own decisions.
• The raving loon: similar to the Bull in China Shop but normally completely unhinged. Everything from the UKIP handbook of discussion. Normally banned.

I was talking today to a woman who said we should leave because we're being dictated to by Brussels. I asked her what exactly "Brussels" had forced her to do or prevented her from doing. She said "Lots of things" I asked her for an example. "There's a lot" she said. "What specifically?" I asked her. "I don't want to disuss it" she replied.

 

[Barnfred 55]

They will no doubt be affected by Brexit but it's not like all the British tourists will suddenly stop going. Then some of that deficit may be talking by people in other countries that may have gone but for the brits booking things up.

You could be right mate. Who knows really?

What is clear is that the majority of remain supporters on here automatically assume that the worst will happen as regards the UK in the case of a no deal Brexit. But not so for any of the EU countries.

Hopefully we don't get to find out for real.

 

[Khalekan]

I was talking today to a woman who said we should leave because we're being dictated to by Brussels. I asked her what exactly "Brussels" had forced her to do or prevented her from doing. She said "Lots of things" I asked her for an example. "There's a lot" she said. "What specifically?" I asked her. "I don't want to disuss it" she replied.

I love the way the James O’Brien school of Brexit iconoclasm is taking root.

When we start quizzing the Brexiters we meet in our day to day lives in thismanner, their arguments fade away like snow off a ditch when t’ thaw comes

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

I was talking today to a woman who said we should leave because we're being dictated to by Brussels. I asked her what exactly "Brussels" had forced her to do or prevented her from doing. She said "Lots of things" I asked her for an example. "There's a lot" she said. "What specifically?" I asked her. "I don't want to disuss it" she replied.

You should have replied that you didn't know sprouts could talk.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I was talking today to a woman who said we should leave because we're being dictated to by Brussels. I asked her what exactly "Brussels" had forced her to do or prevented her from doing. She said "Lots of things" I asked her for an example. "There's a lot" she said. "What specifically?" I asked her. "I don't want to disuss it" she replied.

How can you argue with such well detailed and rationale responses?

 

[Barnfred 55]

I was talking today to a woman who said we should leave because we're being dictated to by Brussels. I asked her what exactly "Brussels" had forced her to do or prevented her from doing. She said "Lots of things" I asked her for an example. "There's a lot" she said. "What specifically?" I asked her. "I don't want to disuss it" she replied.

Who was the woman?

 

[larrygobfiend]

Who was the woman?

Who cares? It's not like it's the most outrageous story ever told, is it?

I've heard this type of thing myself and there's always some gammon speaking the same way on the news.

 

[Charlie Sweet]

I was talking today to a woman who said we should leave because we're being dictated to by Brussels. I asked her what exactly "Brussels" had forced her to do or prevented her from doing. She said "Lots of things" I asked her for an example. "There's a lot" she said. "What specifically?" I asked her. "I don't want to disuss it" she replied.

Its always this.

And unless you meet a deep rooted academic that's passionate about the historic value of sovereignty and happens to also come from a large family of independent fishermen then there's never going to be anything there beyond throwaway cliches.

 

[Barnfred 55]

Who cares? It's not like it's the most outrageous story ever told, is it?

I've heard this type of thing myself and there's always some gammon speaking the same way on the news.

I care. That's why I asked.

And what's with jumping down my throat?