Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Pension schemes of course, but they are generally private institutions, independent of governments.

We don't have a debt with the EU. We are net contributors. Yes, we have a responsibility to future EU spending plans, and that is a liability. But it's not a debt, and evidently it's been open to negotiation by both sides.
 
Debts dont go off and on tables you loon.

We OWE the EU that money. Your mate can bluster and cry all he wants. If we dont pay it, the world will take a dim view.

But you obviously dont understand that. And I doubt the news outlets you link wont avail you of that.

The HoL said we don’t. Personally I believe that a portion should be paid, but the law is the law.....
 
IMO Labour should be throwing its weight behind revoking Article 50 and consigning “Brexit” to the dustbin of history, never mind seeking second referendums.

Sadly, Labour had the wrong man in charge at the wrong time.....Corbyn, like all hard lefties, is very anti EU and his failure to throw our whole movement totally and passionately into the fight back in 2016 and his dithering since is to a large extent responsible for the disaster the Johnson junta is hellbent on leading us to.

And I say that as a man who doesn’t mind Corbyn’s other policues and whom deplores his treatment by the press and that Swinson woman.
Like it or not, there was a referendum called and tens of millions voted. Unfortunately that was lost. How could a democrat ignore that mandate? That's how all the political parties accepted that Leave was the reality. What's happened since is that Leave has been hijacked by a No Deal Suicide Cult and that has had to be opposed...which is what Corbyn is doing.
 
Which youngsters have been embarrassing themselves on here tonight?

Be careful what you wish for. A maximum voting age would stop you from voting at some point in the future. Would that be acceptable to you? You wouldn't be able to pick and choose who it would apply to.
 
Well, it would have been an open goal for a Labour leader whom did not have a long standing hatred if the EU.

He or she might have told those Labour leavers that it was decades of Thatcherism toward the end of last century and a decade of Tory austerity which was the cause of their problems and which caused the damage to their communities ....not the EU.

Instead demagogues, rabble rousers and downright liars like Farage, Johnson and others were allowed to paint the EU as the architect of their woes in the eyes of Labour voters.

And for that I blame our own party.

I see you missed out the 13 year bit when Labour were in charge.....
 
If only May's appointments to the Great Offices of State had had some input or influence, such as her first Foreign Secretary. Damn, I forget his name. But he was either complicit in the current mess or completely useless to be unable to affect it.
The whole bunch of them have got us in this mess. The EU must be rubbing its hands with glee. I remember about ten years ago a report of someone in the EU Parliament laughing about the UK public thinking it would ever be allowed to leave. This empasse seems to confirm that opinion as even our own parliament is conspiring against the majority (of those who bothered to vote) who chose.
 
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