Just now on the news Norway not an EU member have a border agriculture copes..
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roydo
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Hardly. Its deffo not our year.
And as for stretching logic, well, in our defence, we didnt believe the tripe your heroes like Johnson, Farage, and Rees Mogg spouted. You did.
How does that square with Priti Patel’s statement the other day that there will be bo freedom of movement after Halloween?
The way she tells there will be “border controls” at British ports of entry.
But the three hundred odd mile land border between the UK and the Republic of Ireland is just going to remain open as it is now?
Is that what you’re saying, Meth?
In which case anyone from an EU country, or indeed any country, can enter Great Britain by flying into Dublin then taking a bus from Dublin to Belfast and getting an Easyjet plane from Belfast International Airport to John Lennon where there is no passport control as it is an “internal flight”.
The simple fact of it is if the Patel woman is hellbent on pursuing this policy then by definition we will have to put men on the ground to check people crossing the birder.
Thousands of men as there are thousands of roads criss crossing that border, both approved and unapproved.
Which you as the son of Monaghan people should know a darn sight better than me.
So it carries on with the right to be in the UK..
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McCluskey now backs having Remain as an option in any new referendum, but believes the LP position should be to deliver a Brexit deal...which in this period now looks like the only realistic outcome for 'progressives'. Corbyn's line is the same on a referendum and takes the position that the Party Conference (or agreed manifesto if the GE comes first) should decide on the LP official position vis-a-vis Remain.
I'm not sure Peter Reid appreciates the nuances of either Len McCluskey or Corbyn's position on Brexit, tbh.
Peter Reid hammers Boris Johnson over 'class war' Brexit
He's also laid into Esther McVey - and Jeremy Corbyn - in a powerful articlewww.liverpoolecho.co.uk
Good ol’ Reidy.....
McCluskey now backs having Remain as an option in any new referendum, but believes the LP position should be to deliver a Brexit deal...which in this period now looks like the only realistic outcome for 'progressives'. Corbyn's line is the same on a referendum and takes the position that the Party Conference (or agreed manifesto if the GE comes first) should decide on the LP official position vis-a-vis Remain.
Watch the news then ...,.
Indeed.
Just move that border a few hundred miles and draw it through the middle of Norway against the wishes of the Kopites, especially those living along it and then see how agriculture “copes”
IMO Labour should be throwing its weight behind revoking Article 50 and consigning “Brexit” to the dustbin of history, never mind seeking second referendums.
Sadly, Labour had the wrong man in charge at the wrong time.....Corbyn, like all hard lefties, is very anti EU and his failure to throw our whole movement totally and passionately into the fight back in 2016 and his dithering since is to a large extent responsible for the disaster the Johnson junta is hellbent on leading us to.
And I say that as a man who doesn’t mind Corbyn’s other policues and whom deplores his treatment by the press and that Swinson woman.
You can't have free movement without accepting the EU freedoms.
For a group that constantly claim 'all voted for the same thing' you seem to have wildly contrasting notions of what Brexit you all want.
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And what would a pro European leader have done with all those Labour leavers, get on the same fence all be it from the other side... No difference.
You can have controlled movement......
But just not in NI? Right?
roydo
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Yeah, Its called a hard border. What part dont you get, or are you just trolling now?
A history lesson for @joey @Methuselah and any other unicorn chasers spouting tripe about the English imposed border in Ireland.
Those Troubles came about because a peaceful accommodation between Britain and Ireland, reached circa 1911 with the Home Rule Bill, was scuppered due to threats of violence.
That would have given Ireland its own semi autonomous parliament, sitting in Dublin and remining in the British Empire.
This was stymied by an unholy alliance of renegade Tories and Ulster Unionists...who even smuggled guns into Ulster to mount a terrorist campaign to get their way.
Fast forward a century and again we find an unholy alliance of renegade Tories, the ERG and Unionistd, the DUP, blocking the only sensible way to deal with the border issue.
The Northern Ireland only Backstop.....as agreed by May and Barnier back in late 2017.
Then we can all sail away to our sunlit uplands and let the people of Northern Ireland have what they voted in large numbers for in the recent EU elections......the Backstop so vital to their peace, prosperity and unhindered movement within their own towns, villages and in some cases their own fields.
It is beyond vindictive that some English people would blame the Irish for a mess which the English created in t’ first place and whom continue to blame if what our oaf of a Prime Minister truly believes the claptrap he spoke in Brussels today.
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