Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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Like it or not, there was a referendum called and tens of millions voted. Unfortunately that was lost. How could a democrat ignore that mandate? That's how all the political parties accepted that Leave was the reality. What's happened since is that Leave has been hijacked by a No Deal Suicide Cult and that has had to be opposed...which is what Corbyn is doing.

And that is precisely why we need to campaign to stop it altogether instead of fannying around talking about second referendums.

I for one don't want to leave my family's wellbeing in the hands of fanatics who know how to manipulate the gullible into voting the way they want.

#RevokeNow
 
Debts dont go off and on tables you loon.

We OWE the EU that money. Your mate can bluster and cry all he wants. If we dont pay it, the world will take a dim view.

But you obviously dont understand that. And I doubt the news outlets you link wont avail you of that.
Please don't call mealoon for disagreeing with you
OK.....as a Mod you should know better.....
 
A true Evertonian from Scottie road area no chance mate......easy to insult my late father ......this is what this thread does turns blues on blues.....
Not that funny....
Get over yourself joe for god sake... there was no insult. If I wanted to insult you there is plenty of material in this thread to do so believe me .. but I don’t do that.
 
The HoL said we don’t. Personally I believe that a portion should be paid, but the law is the law.....
I dint want to seem like I'm constantly contradicting you, but on this last point. The financial settlement formed part of Phase 1 of the negotiations along with the Irish Border and EU nationals rights.

Also the UK signed up to the Multi Annual Framework in 2014 and committed itself to that until 2020.

So the UK is both legally and morally (good faith principles) obliged to pay that money. Also Section 3 of the European Communities Act gives the ECJ precedence in the UK, which it won't continue to have in the event of 'no deal' but then another arbiter likely International Court of Justice or the Permanent Court of Arbitration, has to make a decision on what ruling it will give on any money owed, which could amount to much more owed by the UK than any settled agreement.

Now the argument has been by Rees-Mogg and others that the Vienna Convention on Article of Treaties releases you from any obligation of ongoing performance of a treaty once that agreement is cancelled, however the case law is largely against that as it requires 'unforeseen' circumstances.

Also the EU would rely on obligations made by the UK under the EU Aquis Communautaire which are pretty clear and there is a prosess for withdrawal mapped out under Treaty on European Union.

In short, if you commit to a joint multi year finacial and political agreement and you decide you no longer want to operate with them, there has to be a division of assests or financial settlement to that and unless you agree this first, then you cannot enter into discussion about what sort of relationship you want to continue to have in the future.
 
I hope you keep a promise better than your beloved Boris or Nigel
I stand by what My family and I voted for along with another 17.4 million .....goodnight and goodbye on this thread....till it it is sorted out......
Better threads than this on the GOT thankfully like Everton, and some alehouse threads......
 
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