Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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and I suppose everything that has come out of remainers mouths is 100% full fact and not a lie to be heard to further their stance..

behave

Have you heard many lies coming out from the remain camp? By it's very nature they were championing the status quo, so you get what you are already getting - no need for extravagant claims. There is obviously what you guys label as 'project fear', but in most likelihood it would cause a lot of issues for us if we left with a no deal, so you can't really go against that.

It is the leave side that are making things up to get what they want and not necessarily what the general public want.
 
Have you heard many lies coming out from the remain camp? By it's very nature they were championing the status quo, so you get what you are already getting - no need for extravagant claims. There is obviously what you guys label as 'project fear', but in most likelihood it would cause a lot of issues for us if we left with a no deal, so you can't really go against that.

It is the leave side that are making things up to get what they want and not necessarily what the general public want.


are you being serious....???

every single day there are forecasts and predictions on how bad no deal will be … its all made up balonie.

get your head from out the sand.
 
are you being serious....???

every single day there are forecasts and predictions on how bad no deal will be … its all made up balonie.

get your head from out the sand.

The government couldn't even negotiate a couple of ferries in the event of a no deal Brexit and have ended out paying millions because of it. That is just one microscopic part of the puzzle, you think everything would really go smoothly??
 
The government couldn't even negotiate a couple of ferries in the event of a no deal Brexit and have ended out paying millions because of it. That is just one microscopic part of the puzzle, you think everything would really go smoothly??
The government couldn't even negotiate a couple of ferries in the event of a no deal Brexit and have ended out paying millions because of it. That is just one microscopic part of the puzzle, you think everything would really go smoothly??
In their annoyance at the people for rejecting their beloved EU, yesterday’s men claimed that the people had been bamboozled by lies, Russian propaganda and their stupidity in not understanding the huge benefits of the EU. Particularly to our establishment. Their real concern was that their own lies and manufactured fears were rejected by the people after forty years’ experience of the rambling shambles that is the EU.


Defeated, they’ve now launched an even bigger programme of lies to put the people back into their box and con them to stay in it and the EU. They’re top grade lies, mostly propagated by the author of the Iraq Dossier as Tony Blair’s representative on earth, one A Campbell. Here are the lies:


DEMOCRACY REQUIRES THE PEOPLE TO VOTE AGAIN


This is really a confidence trick based on the assumption that apathy and fed-upness at being buggered about will reduce the Brexit vote to allow some of the people to reverse the vote of more of them. It can’t be a vote on Mrs May’s solution because Parliament won’t pass it and the politicians can’t agree on any alternative. So the ballot will be “Stay in? Yes or Yes”. The EU will reject any alternative, as it did with Greece’s referendum.


BRITAIN BELONGS AT THE HEART OF EUROPE


Although it’s already relegated to the periphery. Unless it accepts the euro, Schengen, the EU army and the dominance of Germany, it must stay there and unlike most members we won’t get any aid. Only our own money back with their costs taken out.


THE EU IS OUR BEST MARKET


In fact it’s a protective bloc set up to protect French agriculture and German manufacturing. Its share of world trade is declining, the euro wont work and has led to deflation and unemployment. We run a £95 billion deficit which means the export of jobs, money and demand. Membership is a drain not a boost.


LEAVING WOULD BE TO CRASH OVER THE CLIFF EDGE INTO DISASTER


Oddly the rest of the world trades with the EU on WTO terms more successfully than we do as members. They can hardly punish us without damaging themselves and the scare stories of the Treasury and the Bank of England both assume that Brexit would mean deflation. In fact it would compel a Keynesian expansion, the opening of new markets and cheaper food.


WE’D BE ALONE AND IGNORED


Yet small nations are the most successful; independent nations are growing faster because they can manage their economies to suit their own purposes. Outside a bloc designed to suit France and Germany, so can we.


BREXIT WOULD BE DISASTROUS FOR BUSINESS


Small business doesn’t trade with the EU. The assumption is that British business has no guts, no resilience, can’t compete in other markets and is totally dependent on trade agreements negotiated by the EU in its interest not ours. British complacency might benefit from a shock, as Australia and New Zealand did when Britain betrayed them to join the EU.


There is however one element of truth – though it’s one they don’t tell. Our leaders love the EU because it gives them a bigger stage to strut on, an excuse for their failures and the illusion that they’re still important – the only satisfaction left to them, after screwing up Britain.
 
The government couldn't even negotiate a couple of ferries in the event of a no deal Brexit and have ended out paying millions because of it. That is just one microscopic part of the puzzle, you think everything would really go smoothly??
Of course he does, but he clearly isn't very good at listening to people who are qualified to understand the impact and the consequences of that. But if it doesn't Brexiteers will have a nice long list of people they can blame:

  • MPs (Especially May, Corbyn)
  • Remainers
  • EU
  • Allies that didn't offer us enough support
  • Foreigners
  • Queen
  • Judiciary
  • Lord's
  • Business
  • Bank of England
  • Civil Servants
  • Londoners
  • Anyone bit themselves
 
In their annoyance at the people for rejecting their beloved EU, yesterday’s men claimed that the people had been bamboozled by lies, Russian propaganda and their stupidity in not understanding the huge benefits of the EU. Particularly to our establishment. Their real concern was that their own lies and manufactured fears were rejected by the people after forty years’ experience of the rambling shambles that is the EU.


Defeated, they’ve now launched an even bigger programme of lies to put the people back into their box and con them to stay in it and the EU. They’re top grade lies, mostly propagated by the author of the Iraq Dossier as Tony Blair’s representative on earth, one A Campbell. Here are the lies:


DEMOCRACY REQUIRES THE PEOPLE TO VOTE AGAIN


This is really a confidence trick based on the assumption that apathy and fed-upness at being buggered about will reduce the Brexit vote to allow some of the people to reverse the vote of more of them. It can’t be a vote on Mrs May’s solution because Parliament won’t pass it and the politicians can’t agree on any alternative. So the ballot will be “Stay in? Yes or Yes”. The EU will reject any alternative, as it did with Greece’s referendum.


BRITAIN BELONGS AT THE HEART OF EUROPE


Although it’s already relegated to the periphery. Unless it accepts the euro, Schengen, the EU army and the dominance of Germany, it must stay there and unlike most members we won’t get any aid. Only our own money back with their costs taken out.


THE EU IS OUR BEST MARKET


In fact it’s a protective bloc set up to protect French agriculture and German manufacturing. Its share of world trade is declining, the euro wont work and has led to deflation and unemployment. We run a £95 billion deficit which means the export of jobs, money and demand. Membership is a drain not a boost.


LEAVING WOULD BE TO CRASH OVER THE CLIFF EDGE INTO DISASTER


Oddly the rest of the world trades with the EU on WTO terms more successfully than we do as members. They can hardly punish us without damaging themselves and the scare stories of the Treasury and the Bank of England both assume that Brexit would mean deflation. In fact it would compel a Keynesian expansion, the opening of new markets and cheaper food.


WE’D BE ALONE AND IGNORED


Yet small nations are the most successful; independent nations are growing faster because they can manage their economies to suit their own purposes. Outside a bloc designed to suit France and Germany, so can we.


BREXIT WOULD BE DISASTROUS FOR BUSINESS


Small business doesn’t trade with the EU. The assumption is that British business has no guts, no resilience, can’t compete in other markets and is totally dependent on trade agreements negotiated by the EU in its interest not ours. British complacency might benefit from a shock, as Australia and New Zealand did when Britain betrayed them to join the EU.


There is however one element of truth – though it’s one they don’t tell. Our leaders love the EU because it gives them a bigger stage to strut on, an excuse for their failures and the illusion that they’re still important – the only satisfaction left to them, after screwing up Britain.

Have you been hitting the sauce Frank?
 
In their annoyance at the people for rejecting their beloved EU, yesterday’s men claimed that the people had been bamboozled by lies, Russian propaganda and their stupidity in not understanding the huge benefits of the EU. Particularly to our establishment. Their real concern was that their own lies and manufactured fears were rejected by the people after forty years’ experience of the rambling shambles that is the EU.


Defeated, they’ve now launched an even bigger programme of lies to put the people back into their box and con them to stay in it and the EU. They’re top grade lies, mostly propagated by the author of the Iraq Dossier as Tony Blair’s representative on earth, one A Campbell. Here are the lies:


DEMOCRACY REQUIRES THE PEOPLE TO VOTE AGAIN


This is really a confidence trick based on the assumption that apathy and fed-upness at being buggered about will reduce the Brexit vote to allow some of the people to reverse the vote of more of them. It can’t be a vote on Mrs May’s solution because Parliament won’t pass it and the politicians can’t agree on any alternative. So the ballot will be “Stay in? Yes or Yes”. The EU will reject any alternative, as it did with Greece’s referendum.


BRITAIN BELONGS AT THE HEART OF EUROPE


Although it’s already relegated to the periphery. Unless it accepts the euro, Schengen, the EU army and the dominance of Germany, it must stay there and unlike most members we won’t get any aid. Only our own money back with their costs taken out.


THE EU IS OUR BEST MARKET


In fact it’s a protective bloc set up to protect French agriculture and German manufacturing. Its share of world trade is declining, the euro wont work and has led to deflation and unemployment. We run a £95 billion deficit which means the export of jobs, money and demand. Membership is a drain not a boost.


LEAVING WOULD BE TO CRASH OVER THE CLIFF EDGE INTO DISASTER


Oddly the rest of the world trades with the EU on WTO terms more successfully than we do as members. They can hardly punish us without damaging themselves and the scare stories of the Treasury and the Bank of England both assume that Brexit would mean deflation. In fact it would compel a Keynesian expansion, the opening of new markets and cheaper food.


WE’D BE ALONE AND IGNORED


Yet small nations are the most successful; independent nations are growing faster because they can manage their economies to suit their own purposes. Outside a bloc designed to suit France and Germany, so can we.


BREXIT WOULD BE DISASTROUS FOR BUSINESS


Small business doesn’t trade with the EU. The assumption is that British business has no guts, no resilience, can’t compete in other markets and is totally dependent on trade agreements negotiated by the EU in its interest not ours. British complacency might benefit from a shock, as Australia and New Zealand did when Britain betrayed them to join the EU.


There is however one element of truth – though it’s one they don’t tell. Our leaders love the EU because it gives them a bigger stage to strut on, an excuse for their failures and the illusion that they’re still important – the only satisfaction left to them, after screwing up Britain.
It's Austin Mitchell...
 
In their annoyance at the people for rejecting their beloved EU, yesterday’s men claimed that the people had been bamboozled by lies, Russian propaganda and their stupidity in not understanding the huge benefits of the EU. Particularly to our establishment. Their real concern was that their own lies and manufactured fears were rejected by the people after forty years’ experience of the rambling shambles that is the EU.


Defeated, they’ve now launched an even bigger programme of lies to put the people back into their box and con them to stay in it and the EU. They’re top grade lies, mostly propagated by the author of the Iraq Dossier as Tony Blair’s representative on earth, one A Campbell. Here are the lies:


DEMOCRACY REQUIRES THE PEOPLE TO VOTE AGAIN


This is really a confidence trick based on the assumption that apathy and fed-upness at being buggered about will reduce the Brexit vote to allow some of the people to reverse the vote of more of them. It can’t be a vote on Mrs May’s solution because Parliament won’t pass it and the politicians can’t agree on any alternative. So the ballot will be “Stay in? Yes or Yes”. The EU will reject any alternative, as it did with Greece’s referendum.


BRITAIN BELONGS AT THE HEART OF EUROPE


Although it’s already relegated to the periphery. Unless it accepts the euro, Schengen, the EU army and the dominance of Germany, it must stay there and unlike most members we won’t get any aid. Only our own money back with their costs taken out.


THE EU IS OUR BEST MARKET


In fact it’s a protective bloc set up to protect French agriculture and German manufacturing. Its share of world trade is declining, the euro wont work and has led to deflation and unemployment. We run a £95 billion deficit which means the export of jobs, money and demand. Membership is a drain not a boost.


LEAVING WOULD BE TO CRASH OVER THE CLIFF EDGE INTO DISASTER


Oddly the rest of the world trades with the EU on WTO terms more successfully than we do as members. They can hardly punish us without damaging themselves and the scare stories of the Treasury and the Bank of England both assume that Brexit would mean deflation. In fact it would compel a Keynesian expansion, the opening of new markets and cheaper food.


WE’D BE ALONE AND IGNORED


Yet small nations are the most successful; independent nations are growing faster because they can manage their economies to suit their own purposes. Outside a bloc designed to suit France and Germany, so can we.


BREXIT WOULD BE DISASTROUS FOR BUSINESS


Small business doesn’t trade with the EU. The assumption is that British business has no guts, no resilience, can’t compete in other markets and is totally dependent on trade agreements negotiated by the EU in its interest not ours. British complacency might benefit from a shock, as Australia and New Zealand did when Britain betrayed them to join the EU.


There is however one element of truth – though it’s one they don’t tell. Our leaders love the EU because it gives them a bigger stage to strut on, an excuse for their failures and the illusion that they’re still important – the only satisfaction left to them, after screwing up Britain.
Literally no valid points at all
 
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