Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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So will of the people, as explicitly voted for, is to leave however, and whatever the consequences?
Yes.

There was no conditional vote. Stay or leave, that's it.

If leave means no safety net then so be it.

Any 'deal' is pushing the country to remain in far many ways than the vote actually stood for.

And ask yourself this.

May goes to EU , they agree a deal for her. It's been widely reported they wanted to put the condition of agreeing said deal for an extension

Why would the EU be so insistent on mate deal? And better yet, if thats the only deal they will negotiate, who do you think it benefits?

Meanwhile our leader was sat in a room whilst a load of other countries last night talked about her and the country. If that doesn't make this country weak and cowardly then I don't know what does
 
Yes.

There was no conditional vote. Stay or leave, that's it.

If leave means no safety net then so be it.

Any 'deal' is pushing the country to remain in far many ways than the vote actually stood for.

And ask yourself this.

May goes to EU , they agree a deal for her. It's been widely reported they wanted to put the condition of agreeing said deal for an extension

Why would the EU be so insistent on mate deal? And better yet, if thats the only deal they will negotiate, who do you think it benefits?

Meanwhile our leader was sat in a room whilst a load of other countries last night talked about her and the country. If that doesn't make this country weak and cowardly then I don't know what does

er - there being no conditional vote means that there is nothing to rule out a second referendum, a deal, giving everyone a kitten or anything else instead of leaving.
 
Tell me again why did Cameron go for a referendum would not have been 4 million votes to UKIP would it?
Because he's a scummy tory who mistakenly thought that ukip would take over the country and even the world......moonfaced pig loving berk that he is...and then ran away to his luxury shed where he is studying horticulture....lollollol;)
 
Tell me again why did Cameron go for a referendum would not have been 4 million votes to UKIP would it?
While UKIP played a part, I don't think he thought he could get a majority in Government so offered the referendum to get Tory core votersand the Eurosceptic elements of his party on side.

I think he thought he could just blame the liberals when they would veto it. But he ended up with a majority. He also took his victory as a belief that he was more popular than he actually was and as such, decided the best narrative to discuss EU membership was to advocate for a status quo and 'more of the same' to people he had spent years ensuring had nothing by enforcing austerity on them.

Someone said he was blameless in this thread not long ago, but he is the root cause of all of this. He never expected to lose the referendum so offered a simple binary vote, with no actual indication of what Leave might mean, then buggered off when it all fell apart.
 
While UKIP played a part, I don't think he thought he could get a majority in Government so offered the referendum to get Tory core votersand the Eurosceptic elements of his party on side.

I think he thought he could just blame the liberals when they would veto it. But he ended up with a majority. He also took his victory as a belief that he was more popular than he actually was and as such, decided the best narrative to discuss EU membership was to advocate for a status quo and 'more of the same' to people he had spent years ensuring had nothing by enforcing austerity on them.

Someone said he was blameless in this thread not long ago, but he is the root cause of all of this. He never expected to lose the referendum so offered a simple binary vote, with no actual indication of what Leave might mean, then buggered off when it all fell apart.
Everything he says about the EU as a failing organisation is spot on - Clegg never be a EU army .....
Also today's polls the biggest Remain party the Lib Dems their votes are falling away ......
If the trend was to remain they should be making ground........not losing it.......
 
er - there being no conditional vote means that there is nothing to rule out a second referendum, a deal, giving everyone a kitten or anything else instead of leaving.
Yes there is

Democracy.

Leave won. We need to leave. The minute we aren't we are breaking the decision. Adding deals , re running the vote etc is just breaking democracy.

What if we run a second vote and leave wins again? The mps still can't agree on what they want , are we to keep extending? Keep voting until the right vote wins?

What if leave got more next time around?

And if we take a deal that keeps us in the EU in all but name , isn't that breaking the trust of the country? Of the 52%?
 
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