johnblue23
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That would be up to the people of Ireland and Scotland to decide if they wanted their governments to pay anything to England and Wales.
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That would be up to the people of Ireland and Scotland to decide if they wanted their governments to pay anything to England and Wales.
I shop at my local Home Bargain which now has some food in it plus Aldi, Lidil, and B&M - the bigger stores now and then!
Barnfred 55
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Just like we've all had a say in how much we pay the EU to leave.? OK.
Even more options if shops I could've decided upon...
Hard to know what someone's intentions are if they only give you the intention and not the goal.
Humiliating Mrs May.
johnblue23
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The UK went into the Common Market club and voted to stay in with obligations. Northern Ireland never voted to join the UK, so don't have any 'obligations'. Ireland wouldn't have to honour anything. As far as the Scottish government that would be up to them if they paid any 'divorce settlement' to the English and Welsh government.
We have a say by virtue of our elected MEPs, more of a say if you consider the MEP voting structures.
The UK represents about 10% of the EU parliament which unanimously agreed the Multiannual Finanicial Framework.
We each individually don't get a vote though, we put our trust in elected representatives.
Barnfred 55
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That's just madness mate.
The UK national debt stands at around 1.8 trillion pounds.
A portion of that will relate to costs in both NI and Scotland, particularly as both, as you say, cost the UK more than they generate in income.
There is no way that the UK will allow either to leave the union without taking at least some share of that national debt with them.
Anyway, back to Brexit.
Frang
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laughable if both NI and Scotland think they can just dump their debt on us … that's not how all this works!
Its an interesting point as good faith would dictate you pay your dues if you leave a collective Union. It's easier to calculate the UK contribution and any debt owed to the EU because of the budget calculation, Multiannual Financial Framework and most importantly the treaties the UK have with the EU.
There was no agreed settlement between countries at the establishment of the Union.
Act of Union 1707
Here we look at the relationship between the two independent kingdoms of England and Scotland in the 16th and 17th centuries. We explore the critical period leading up to the passing of Acts of Union by both parliaments what happened afterwards, and the d
johnblue23
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The madness would be 'there is no way the UK will allow either to leave the union without taking at least some if the share of the national debt'. The Good Friday agreement allows for a border poll and if the majority agree there would be unification. There is no mention of 'money for national debt' so wouldn't be a consideration. If the new UK decided it was, they would be laughed out of the UN if it said that the UK 'will not allow' unification unless Ireland paid money to the UK. The US Irish diaspora would go bananas. Trying to tie strings to a democratic vote would in itself be undemocratic. It would be odd for those complaining about how the EU are 'tying strings' to the UK's departure to then try and impose strings on Irish unification which came about democratically.
Parliament's anti democratic meandering around Brexit has shown it up for what it is, full of anti democratic individuals who are acting as they are because they don't like the result. The EU have acted as they have done in the past when they don't like the result - put it back to the government until they get the result they want. The HoC are acting in similar vein with their maneuverings.
@BigBlueNose is that you with the German motorhome??
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dead_soft
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So will of the people, as explicitly voted for, is to leave however, and whatever the consequences?
Frang
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absolutely..
they are acting as if they are the owners of a company and are solely responsible for making every decision.
they only represent the people, they do not own us, like they believe... the way this has been manouvered to suit their own agenda's will not go un-noticed in future votes.
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