Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Joey66 said:
Everything he says about the EU as a failing organisation is spot on - Clegg never be a EU army .....
Also today's polls the biggest Remain party the Lib Dems their votes are falling away ......
If the trend was to remain they should be making ground........not losing it.......
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Who?

I also think people aren't entirely consumed by Brexit, they are focusing on other things, which is why Lid Dems are falling away.
 
Kenshin said:
Yes there is

Democracy.

Leave won. We need to leave. The minute we aren't we are breaking the decision. Adding deals , re running the vote etc is just breaking democracy.

What if we run a second vote and leave wins again? The mps still can't agree on what they want , are we to keep extending? Keep voting until the right vote wins?

What if leave got more next time around?

And if we take a deal that keeps us in the EU in all but name , isn't that breaking the trust of the country? Of the 52%?
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You'd just have a larger group of people that haven't given a agreed stance on what type of Brexit they want...
 
Kenshin said:
Yes there is

Democracy.

Leave won. We need to leave. The minute we aren't we are breaking the decision. Adding deals , re running the vote etc is just breaking democracy.

What if we run a second vote and leave wins again? The mps still can't agree on what they want , are we to keep extending? Keep voting until the right vote wins?

What if leave got more next time around?

And if we take a deal that keeps us in the EU in all but name , isn't that breaking the trust of the country? Of the 52%?
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The problem here is that the current Parliament, which was also elected and more recently than the 2016 referendum, disagrees with it.

Democracy does not mean you get to pick and choose which votes to believe in, or that you can say that a referendum that said "leave" or "remain" says anything other than "leave" or "remain". This nonsense that "leave = no deal" or "leave on this deal = a betrayal" is just that, nonsense.
 
tsubaki said:
The problem here is that the current Parliament, which was also elected and more recently than the 2016 referendum, disagrees with it.

Democracy does not mean you get to pick and choose which votes to believe in, or that you can say that a referendum that said "leave" or "remain" says anything other than "leave" or "remain". This nonsense that "leave = no deal" or "leave on this deal = a betrayal" is just that, nonsense.
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Manefesto 's they mean nothing then........
 
tsubaki said:
The problem here is that the current Parliament, which was also elected and more recently than the 2016 referendum, disagrees with it.

Democracy does not mean you get to pick and choose which votes to believe in, or that you can say that a referendum that said "leave" or "remain" says anything other than "leave" or "remain". This nonsense that "leave = no deal" or "leave on this deal = a betrayal" is just that, nonsense.
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..except that EU membership really is that simple. You have two choices..... you either accept all of their so called 'four essential freedoms' and submit and subscribe to the EU...

Or you accept three or less..then you are out, with no room for compromise.

Is that democracy?
 
Mr. White said:
..except that EU membership really is that simple. You have two choices..... you either accept all of their so called 'four essential freedoms' and submit and subscribe to the EU...

Or you accept three or less..then you are out, with no room for compromise.

Is that democracy?
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I think this is when the various leave voters pop by and chide you for such blatant racism.
 
Mr. White said:
..except that EU membership really is that simple. You have two choices..... you either accept all of their so called 'four essential freedoms' and submit and subscribe to the EU...

Or you accept three or less..then you are out, with no room for compromise.

Is that democracy?
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Technically, yes. Because it's the conditions of membership and it forms part of the structure of governance.

You can leave it if you want, through A.50, it's just not financially sensible to do so.
 
tsubaki said:
The problem here is that the current Parliament, which was also elected and more recently than the 2016 referendum, disagrees with it.

Democracy does not mean you get to pick and choose which votes to believe in, or that you can say that a referendum that said "leave" or "remain" says anything other than "leave" or "remain". This nonsense that "leave = no deal" or "leave on this deal = a betrayal" is just that, nonsense.
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"BREXIT MEANS BREXIT!"

"Here's a deal then!"

"NO, THAT BREXIT DOESN'T MEAN BREXIT!"

"What do you want then?"

"BREXIT MEANS BREXIT!"




Lunatics are running the asylum...
 
Tubey said:
"BREXIT MEANS BREXIT!"

"Here's a deal then!"

"NO, THAT BREXIT DOESN'T MEAN BREXIT!"

"What do you want then?"

"BREXIT MEANS BREXIT!"




Lunatics are running the asylum...
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What I still cannot understand is the people who now don't want a referendum on 'what type of Brexit we should have?'

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The government commitment was to honour the referendum and 'implement what you decide'. Government are actively trying to Leave, as are parliament broadly speaking, they just can't agree on what type of future relationship to have.

What's the issue with taking that back to the country? Remain doesn't have to even be an option (it should be, but it doesn't have to be).
 
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