Current Affairs EU In or Out

[Jebus_lives]

Because parliament can't command a majority for any given outcome, in a second referendum it would be for the government to propose a way forward that goes to the people instead of parliament. So at that point May's government, or whatever government exists at that time, would put forward that proposal and put it against remain.

May's deal is fairly clear in terms of what it wants - no customs union, strike trade agreements, end free movement, have a backstop on the island of Ireland until a revised solution is made.

Parliament has failed, so it can't dictate ten different options to the public - it has to be a simple, two way choice. And the only one on the table right now and agreed with the EU is May's deal. The only other realistic option is no deal, and neither the UK nor the EU will countenance that.

The point I'm making is, why is there a reluctantance to go to the public to decide 'how?'

Given the situation as it is now and parliament having the final say, it would surely have to be the will of Parliament vs the will of the people (which I again see no democratic issue with). And the choices as you have rightly described Remain vs the Government agreed relationship. But, May's withdrawal agreement is just the agreement to leave, it does not give an indication of future relationship.

But, there has been ample opportunity to have a number of options on a ballot for a referendum on the future relationship. It's just been ignored and rejected on numerous occasions.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Absolute state of him. 'If I don't get the thing I want, I'm going to take up arms'

Amazing that people want to vote for this clown.

 

[neil999]

bring a General election like you say.

let the parties make clear exactly where they stand regards Brexit and what deal or no deal etc they will push for and let us vote.

I think the country is so divided, and Corbyn is so niche , that the GE voting would surprise a few with the Brexit party and the like getting huge numbers.

people are fed up to the back teeth of weak labour and self centred tories.

I honestly think the next election would bring huge change to politics as we know it

possibly, but they wont win any seats

 

[Joey66]

Absolute state of him. 'If I don't get the thing I want, I'm going to take up arms'

Amazing that people want to vote for this clown.

Hey leave my hero alone lol
Frank has already applied to be his bodyguard.....lol
I'm his salt advisor lol

 

[Jebus_lives]

Hey leave my hero alone lol
Frank has already applied to be his bodyguard.....lol

Are you going to form a militia?

 

[Joey66]

Are you going to form a militia?

Nigels people's army on the move again to stop wet Liberals like you.......

 

[Joey66]

Absolute state of him. 'If I don't get the thing I want, I'm going to take up arms'

Amazing that people want to vote for this clown.

I will.......

 

[orchard]

Absolute state of him. 'If I don't get the thing I want, I'm going to take up arms'

Amazing that people want to vote for this clown.

Haha, yeah, it it sounds like there are muppets that still believe what he says.

 

[orchard]

I will.......

You'd probably kill more of your own than anyone else, especially if you made dinner.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Nigels people's army on the move again to stop wet Liberals like you.......

He'd be very much a Haig character I imagine. Encouraging the elderly over the top to fight his battles for him.

 

[Khalekan]

I don't want mays deal ….

your choices are remain in the EU … or remain in the EU with non of the benefits.

I want a no deal Brexit. - what the referendum was about.

this deal business has just been dreamt up to make sure we don't actually leave.

Frank, stop it

You are having a ‘mare here.

You haven’t a clue and are making a fool of yourself when saying you actually “want” a no deal Brexit and then compounding your silliness by saying that was “what the Referendum was about”.

It saddens me to think that people are lol atchoo

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I don't want mays deal ….

your choices are remain in the EU … or remain in the EU with non of the benefits.

I want a no deal Brexit. - what the referendum was about.

this deal business has just been dreamt up to make sure we don't actually leave.

May's deal doesn't talk about any future relationship at all. Have you even read the withdrawal agreement or do you just parrot what Johnson, Mogg et al tell you?

 

[Jebus_lives]

I will.......

Looking forward to standing alongside the white supremacists and those wanting to sell off the NHS?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Absolute state of him. 'If I don't get the thing I want, I'm going to take up arms'

Amazing that people want to vote for this clown.

Just imagine he was Muslim for a second.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Nigels people's army on the move again to stop wet Liberals like you.......

Joe, you have complained numerous times on here about apparent bullying, yet consistently throw out remarks like wet, bitch and so on. Perhaps be the change you wish to see in others