orchard
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Seanjd
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I'd be a bit sceptical of it, as I would the 75% of young people voted remain stat, as the ages of voters aren't recorded. The 75% stat, for example, was gathered using the voting outcomes of a council in London with a large number of young voters.
Saying that, I'd say more young voters did vote remain than leave. Not sure about turnout though.
The Mighty Quint
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We were Germany's 3rd largest export market last year, whatever % it is, it means billions in sales and lots of jobs depend on it.
Yes mate, get that, but they'll still export that way using WTO rules or the EFTA when Brexit is done.
The point is they have absolutely no need to give up the enshrined principle of free movement to Britain, because we need them infinitely more than they need us, and to do so would be suicide for the EU project as a whole.
The problem is though mate, the EU isn't just about France and Germany, it's about 25 other countries alongside those 2.
1966efc
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Completely agree with your scepticism. Figures are floated around far too freely in order to give solidity to opinions which - and how can it be otherwise - appear nebulous. The media don't help:"Old people crush the hopes and aspirations of the young" makes good copy. It's possible that ennui crushed their hopes etc rather than than coffin dodgers and possibly it's not.
Peronally, I mistrust any of the most recent figures & will do until considered analysis has taken place.
orchard
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I know Bruce, it's shocking,we could never trust the Spiv's or Brexit campaigns, but we need to honour democracy and the will of our citizen's, learn our lessons, otherwise the consequences will be horrendous.
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We have now one dead MP, lots of racist vandalism, people being insulted in the street and told to go home, nothing much to resemble government or opposition, lots of investment already on hold and a budget to deal with this (cuts) will be in autumn.
Johnson and Farage with their lies should be charged with treachery. This is a total mess.
MikeEFC1878x
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Where are the Remainers that complaining about Osborne's lie about emergency budget?
No all quiet on western front then? Only seem to care about difference between 350 Mil Gross, and 200+ Mil net per week and don't know the difference.
No all quiet on western front then? Only seem to care about difference between 350 Mil Gross, and 200+ Mil net per week and don't know the difference.
The thing is, when I talk to companies you always urge them to only try and make the kind of mistakes you can walk away from. I'm not going to suggest that leaving the EU will sink Britain because it won't, but it isn't something we can reverse very easily at all. Had the decision been based upon some things that are reasonable, if disputed by the remain side, then fine, but the main aspects of the campaign are already unraveling to the extent that the whole campaign seems to have been based upon misleading claims, if not downright dishonesty.
So we're having what is likely to be a really bad move that was based upon dishonest grounds and that we cannot wind back very easily whatsoever. There really is no shame in saying "we were wrong..."
George Osbourne. "No need for emergency budget" and "country is in position of strength"
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Hang on a minute, so we have an environment where the financial markets are spooked in a major way, where the shares in the state owned banks are suspended to stop further falls, and you actually want the Chancellor to add to that by raising taxes?
He has a responsibility here to paint things in a reasonable light to try and dampen the fear in the markets. I very much expect such a budget to come, but now is really not the right time.
So you expect him to say "yup, we're pretty much screwed", and then sit and watch the markets be eviscerated?
That's code for "I couldn't get it through parliament, nobody knows what is going on and I'm just hoping the new leader gives me a place in the cabinet."
Seanjd
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My brother and I were talking yesterday about how ultimately, the Conservatives do not want to give up power, whether remain or leave. There is still a Conservative government, and a weak economy as a weak economy on their watch.
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