peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I’ll be honest ,I don’t give a crap about the rest of Europe. I’m not sure why you do as they apparently don’t give a crap about us......
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I’ll be honest ,I don’t give a crap about the rest of Europe. I’m not sure why you do as they apparently don’t give a crap about us......
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
It was always going to happen. Corbyn has made a complete Horlicks of this......
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
He’s a pillock....
I think of him as a modern day Micheal Foot with cheerleader 's,
decent person ,principal 's he stands by , which is rare in politics these days are a plus
But totally wrong for the position he finds himself in, not the man to lead the country or the party to power as he hasn't the wider appeal outside of those that already will be voting that way anyway.
Thought he made a mistake today myself but let's see how it plays out.
Ron Swanson
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No, you didn't. I'll ask again.
What is more representative of the democratic will of the people right now, today, in 2019:
1) A referendum in 2016 where we didn't know what a brexit deal would be, and was predicated on much misinformation.
2) A referendum in 2019 where the public know the deal that is on offer from the EU, as well as having a better idea what a no deal would entail for the country.
It's a simple 1 or 2 please, Pete.
Ron Swanson
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The ECJ said in Dec 2018 that Article 50 can be revoked unilaterally. That is the first step that puts the decision to revoke entirely into parliament's hands.
Revoking article 50 can be put to a parliamentary vote. Government lawyers have already conceded as much. In the face of a majority vote in parliament to revoke article 50, overturning the statute law on the date of our exit would be a mere formality as it too can be done by an act of parliament.
Deferring Brexit is much different though. It requires a unanimous agreement by the EU27.
Armel
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Well yes largely depends on the specific organization. E.g: I couldn't function in a lot of the Belgian federal administrations; there's something that is called 'statutair'. I can't immediately think of the correct translation. Basically once you get appointed (by royal decree) it's extremely difficult to get fired. Doesn't exactly contribute to a productive working environment and you can quickly lose motivation in some of the ministries (in fairness there are also good ones; like the finance one is very good and most of the Flemish ones). Luckily they only rarely use it for new employees so the atmosphere is changing; but it's still very common for those in the +50 category. My father works for a former (still partly) state owned company; he has it and he's a relatively high union rep (again extra legal protection) for the ACV (the biggest union in Belgium; the Christian one). He's unsackable. I imagine it could be quite fun to work for the European commission/ European projects though.
Yes nice area, next to the central train station. The royal circus has been reopened recently (tbf it's from 1878, so it needed a bit of work), I like it because it has good acoustics and it's quite small. Saw Sigur Ros there a couple of times. Lots of parliaments and embassies in the area, and it's adjacent to the European quarter. And off-course also "The Outpost"; spent quite a few hours there; I wouldn't go there unless you suddenly develop the urge to play boardgames. Are you coming over to clarify Brexit?
Yesterday Sir Jim Ratcliffe was here, from Ineos; to announce that he's doing a +- 3 billion €'s investment in the port of Antwerp - making it the biggest investment in the European petrochemical sector in the last twenty years. They're going to need a lot of workers. The main reason that the Belgian economy isn't growing as fast as it should be is because there aren't enough workers. You have quite a few available Walloons, but for some bizarre reason a lot of them are reluctant to cross the border to work in another linguistical area (and jobs over there are more scarce and pay less, it's not exactly big distances, - think ex-heavy industrial area that used to be a powerhouse but they can't reconvert it; no matter how much money the PS overlords throw at it). Just saying, one of the reasons why I like freedom of movement.
Most of the jobs available offer good salaries.
Me too.
Now, I think both major parties have had worse leaders in my lifetime (certainly Cameron is the most disastrous Tory leader), but I never recall both having such awful leaders at the same time.
And what is worse.....there is no obvious improvement waiting in the wings, in either party.
Politics in this country is in crisis.
NilSatisOptimum
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Reading between the lines May’s statement last night effectively handed over power to whoever can command a majority in Parliament for their plan. And No deal will automatically fall off process next week.
The motion on Monday can be amended in any way, shape or form. From voting on removing no deal as an option over holding indicative votes to voting on a second referendum. Everything is now possible.
And the chancellor more or less confirms this -From Telegraph..
Philip Hammond told business leaders that the “threat” of a no-deal Brexit could be taken “off the table” within days and potentially lead to Article 50 “rescinded”, a leaked recording of a conference call reveals.
The rest is payed firewall -
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...business-chiefs-mps-will-stop-no-deal-brexit/
Corbyn now has real power in Brexit he is king maker now with no, no deal.
The motion on Monday can be amended in any way, shape or form. From voting on removing no deal as an option over holding indicative votes to voting on a second referendum. Everything is now possible.
And the chancellor more or less confirms this -From Telegraph..
Philip Hammond told business leaders that the “threat” of a no-deal Brexit could be taken “off the table” within days and potentially lead to Article 50 “rescinded”, a leaked recording of a conference call reveals.
The rest is payed firewall -
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...business-chiefs-mps-will-stop-no-deal-brexit/
Corbyn now has real power in Brexit he is king maker now with no, no deal.
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Reading between the lines May’s statement last night effectively handed over power to whoever can command a majority in Parliament for their plan. And No deal will automatically fall off process next week.
The motion on Monday can be amended in any way, shape or form. From voting on removing no deal as an option over holding indicative votes to voting on a second referendum. Everything is now possible.
And the chancellor more or less confirms this -From Telegraph..
Philip Hammond told business leaders that the “threat” of a no-deal Brexit could be taken “off the table” within days and potentially lead to Article 50 “rescinded”, a leaked recording of a conference call reveals.
The rest is payed firewall -
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politic...business-chiefs-mps-will-stop-no-deal-brexit/
Corbyn now has real power in Brexit he is king maker now with no, no deal.
Yup - he's about to have the rug pulled from under him. He's had a disastrous 2 years as opposition leader. Time to go Jezza, find a nice quiet pub, settle down and talk socialist politics with the punters - that's his limit I'm afraid. He's a nice guy, very personable, but never a true opposition leader and never in a million years PM material..
larrygobfiend
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I think he genuinely does. Problem is, he's a eurosceptic and the majority of his supporters want to stay. It'll never work.
zzr45
#MURDERINGSCUM
Yeah I’m probably be a tad too facetious, I’ll never agree with him but he was a backbench MP thrust into a position he never should have been. Arguably the same with May.
hi well another day, loads of noise.
why don't the just own up say we are not leaving and cut the bull, I would actually have more respect for them than carry on with this bollocks that is fooling nobody,
they don't care what people voted but like to give the illusion they do,
so chip away daily to get to a situation were they can blame somebody else for the eventual outcome, we are staying in , sorry we tried it was that lot not us to blame so vote this way.
why don't the just own up say we are not leaving and cut the bull, I would actually have more respect for them than carry on with this bollocks that is fooling nobody,
they don't care what people voted but like to give the illusion they do,
so chip away daily to get to a situation were they can blame somebody else for the eventual outcome, we are staying in , sorry we tried it was that lot not us to blame so vote this way.
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