Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
  • Total voters
    1,013
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Armaghtoffee said:
That is the exact bit that Irish Nationalist journalists have went to town on since Theresa and Arlene got loved up.

The DUP will always look to the mothership of Westminster. It just isn’t in their psyche that London will simply use them as and when they need them. They just are not as British as Finchley.

Brexiteers only concern re the backstop is that it locks them into a customs union. They couldn’t give a fig for the Ballymena Loyals who look to London rather than Dublin.
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The DUP are useful idiots for the ERG.
 
orchard said:
That's obviously wrong as it could only be 'more tory' if they actually acted on it.
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I don't like even wheeling it out tbh. Half of the problem we're in is because politicians have been all too quick to say utter nonsense because they know they won't be held accountable for it. Lies, vapid slogans, 'alternative facts' have all played a part in eroding the political literacy of the public. Obviously the media have played a big role too, both in pumping out their own twaddle but also in not holding politicians to account.

We should be striving for real, evidence-based policy making, but instead we're engaged in a populist race to the bottom.
 
Joey66 said:
If they don't alter it legally they don't get the 39 billion proof they don't really want it to be put into a action they should not be in a rush for the 39 billion they may clarify the backstop in a better legal manner for parliament to get the deal passed by the HOC!
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So that means if the EU don’t go back on their word to Ireland and the other 26 countries then the U.K. will refuse to pay what they have already agreed to pay?

Do you see any potential pitfalls there Joe?
 
Armaghtoffee said:
So that means if the EU don’t go back on their word to Ireland and the other 26 countries then the U.K. will refuse to pay what they have already agreed to pay?

Do you see any potential pitfalls there Joe?
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And then after that disabusement of any kind of ethical and honourable behaviour, we will venture out into the world and strike all manner of wonderful trade deals because our reputation as trustworthy people will not be effected whatsoever. I'm sure there's a logic in there somewhere.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
I don't like even wheeling it out tbh. Half of the problem we're in is because politicians have been all too quick to say utter nonsense because they know they won't be held accountable for it. Lies, vapid slogans, 'alternative facts' have all played a part in eroding the political literacy of the public. Obviously the media have played a big role too, both in pumping out their own twaddle but also in not holding politicians to account.

We should be striving for real, evidence-based policy making, but instead we're engaged in a populist race to the bottom.
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It's a central theme to May's bs, they are attempting to expose it for what it is, that is, hold government to account for their lies.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
Twitter's perhaps not the best medium for that then. A truncated medium isn't the best for nuanced messaging and it could easily be construed as them following suit.
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It’d be better if they all stopped waving their willies round on social media and got on with trying to turn this mess around really
 
zzr45 said:
It’d be better if they all stopped waving their willies round on social media and got on with trying to turn this mess around really
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Which is obviously what they are doing by wanting the vote ASAP, rather than delaying it, and said as much in the house severally.
 
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