Current Affairs EU In or Out

In or Out

  • In

    Votes: 688 67.9%
  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%

  • Total voters
    1,013
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I'm not denying your claim Bruce, but "anecdotally", my area (Great Yarmouth) was one of the highest Leave voting areas in the UK, and we have a ~33% higher immigration rate than the UK as a whole.

Can only go by what the council say, but here https://www.great-yarmouth.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=988&p=0 says that 717 new international migrants into the town out of a population of 98,000. This compares to a domestic migration (from other parts of the UK) of 3,500. In the 2011 census, 'other white', which is believed to mainly consist of eastern Europeans, made up 3.5% of the population. In my borough of London, a shade over 35% of residents are foreign, which amounts to around 105,000 people, or the size of Great Yarmouth.
 
and the Queen
I actually don't mind her,
pity her sometime 's imagine every day of you life planned out for you, everybody looking at you,
never being able to say do one tit, no matter what bald patch your looking down on at that moment bet she feels like farting in there face sometimes some of the people she has to mix with over the years
Keep her for the southern lot they like that type of thing.
 
here in the states, they interview a few Conservatives now and again.
And the stance seems to be that the backstop is unacceptable. Then they all pretty much straight out say that it's unacceptable because without DUP support, the government would fall. Everyone nods and agrees and moves on and no one points out that this is putting party before country.
They also don't seem to get that there is no Irish leader, no matter from which party that would compromise on the backstop given the history of the country.
Also the EU has to be seen to back the Irish to the hilt.
The only way out of this is to get the DUP out of power.
 
here in the states, they interview a few Conservatives now and again.
And the stance seems to be that the backstop is unacceptable. Then they all pretty much straight out say that it's unacceptable because without DUP support, the government would fall. Everyone nods and agrees and moves on and no one points out that this is putting party before country.
They also don't seem to get that there is no Irish leader, no matter from which party that would compromise on the backstop given the history of the country.
Also the EU has to be seen to back the Irish to the hilt.
The only way out of this is to get the DUP out of power.

Even without the DUP in the mix they would still be in trouble, as to put up a hard border would be breaking the good friday agreement.
 
Even without the DUP in the mix they would still be in trouble, as to put up a hard border would be breaking the good friday agreement.
Without the DUP there would be an 'NI only' backstop, which would mean that the rest of the UK could leave on the terms already agreed in the Withdrawal Agreement, except that the UK would not be tied to the Customs Union indefinitely. This would also decrease the likelihood of a hard border.

She wants to deliver Brexit, so it's about time May copped on and did the sensible thing for her country.
 
Mate loads of people want a United Ireland and obviously as discussed there were lots of reasons for voting Brexit . However for the people that bang on about sovereignty and taking back control and hark back to our bygone halcyon days and talk about how we surivived the war etc I can’t believe breaking up the United Kingdom was what they had in mind when they voted leave . However for Brexit everything can be sacrificed.

Totally agree on the hat .
Takes all sorts , I suspect I am as far away from most of them, on what I want out as brexit as you are mate.
 
Can only go by what the council say, but here https://www.great-yarmouth.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=988&p=0 says that 717 new international migrants into the town out of a population of 98,000. This compares to a domestic migration (from other parts of the UK) of 3,500. In the 2011 census, 'other white', which is believed to mainly consist of eastern Europeans, made up 3.5% of the population. In my borough of London, a shade over 35% of residents are foreign, which amounts to around 105,000 people, or the size of Great Yarmouth.
I was basing my stats from the Office of Nationals Statistics :
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I also researched other high Leave voting areas such as Boston (who voted Leave by the greatest margin), and their "non-British nationals) was 27%, compared to U.K. average of 9%. Similar result with South Holland (second highest Leave area).

It's interesting that most London boroughs with a high immigration rate voted Remain. Could this be down to an integration thing? From personal experience it seems that in Great Yarmouth, most immigrants (which are mainly from Eastern Europe as opposed to from other parts of the world) seem to "keep themselves to themselves", and there are very obvious immigrant 'areas' within the borough where there is extemely limited integration with the wider British born community. I assume that's not the case in many part so of London?
 
I actually don't mind her,
pity her sometime 's imagine every day of you life planned out for you, everybody looking at you,
never being able to say do one tit, no matter what bald patch your looking down on at that moment bet she feels like farting in there face sometimes some of the people she has to mix with over the years
Keep her for the southern lot they like that type of thing.
I do wonder what she does all day. I've been home with the kids for nearly 5 years and practically gone insane, wonder if she feels isolated.
 
Without the DUP there would be an 'NI only' backstop, which would mean that the rest of the UK could leave on the terms already agreed in the Withdrawal Agreement, except that the UK would not be tied to the Customs Union indefinitely. This would also decrease the likelihood of a hard border.

She wants to deliver Brexit, so it's about time May copped on and did the sensible thing for her country.

Yes, but special terms for NI means you get a Scottish problem. The DUP are a thorn but still not the masters in all of this.
 
Explain that backstop bit Joe, how will it work according to Digby?
If they don't alter it legally they don't get the 39 billion proof they don't really want it to be put into a action they should not be in a rush for the 39 billion they may clarify the backstop in a better legal manner for parliament to get the deal passed by the HOC!
 
here in the states, they interview a few Conservatives now and again.
And the stance seems to be that the backstop is unacceptable. Then they all pretty much straight out say that it's unacceptable because without DUP support, the government would fall. Everyone nods and agrees and moves on and no one points out that this is putting party before country.
They also don't seem to get that there is no Irish leader, no matter from which party that would compromise on the backstop given the history of the country.
Also the EU has to be seen to back the Irish to the hilt.
The only way out of this is to get the DUP out of power.

And Sinn Fein wising up and taking their seats would go a long way to minimising DUP influence at Westminster.

Oh for the days when the likes of John Hume and Seamus Mallon were standing up for northern Nationalists in the House.
 
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