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    Votes: 688 67.9%

  • Out

    Votes: 325 32.1%
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peteblue said:
No one wanted it to pan out like this. The problem as I have stated previously is that our negotiating position has been fundamentally undermined by Remainers who have given the EU the impression that we could be bullied and coerced into changing our mind, hence the use of NI as an EU negotiating ploy. Even now the EU bureaucracy are taking this to the limit, believing that we will just cave in. Well my experience tells me that while we wanted a good deal for both parties, a bad deal for us should be walked away from, and it is only when both sides understand that this will happen that a deal will be done. Most U.K. businesses will have their plans fully in place by now, most U.K. banks similar. I do not believe that the EU are ready, but that is down to them. Now we just need our politicians to grow a backbone......
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Problem is Maybot changes like the wind ........
Hammond is the fly in the ointment as an avid remainer - a no deal is looking very likely .......
not what I wanted........
 
Joey66 said:
My you are going back in history .........
A little bit like marxist Corbyn having a go at the British Empire yesterday...........
If we had a good opposition Brexit would be sorted by now.......
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A shade over 40 years? It's not so long ago.

My opinion on Corbyn however varies between thinking he is a gobshite and a complete gobshite so I'll give you a pass on that one! :) He is not the opposition leader we need. Mind you, I don't think Maybot or her cohort of impotent lieutenants is what is needed either.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
How so?



He has a certain way about him, but every clip I've seen from his show it's largely been a case of some poor soul phoning in saying "xyz", and O'Brien asking him to prove it, at which point the caller gets flustered and O'Brien mocks them. That seems to be the general format of these things. You'd think someone of a leave persuasion would get it by now and phone in with the mountains of evidence they have tucked down the back of their sofa.
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Only just seen this.

I don't think people quite understand how to deal with identity politics.

Time and time again during Trump's election campaign, we were told that he was "finished" and that "this was the end" - but it never worked. Trump used this in his favor by suggesting that it's his support they're discounting.

The same goes for Brexit.

We need more.
 
Yarrgh said:
A shade over 40 years? It's not so long ago.

My opinion on Corbyn however varies between thinking he is a gobshite and a complete gobshite so I'll give you a pass on that one! :) He is not the opposition leader we need. Mind you, I don't think Maybot or her cohort of impotent lieutenants is what is needed either.
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Spain has changed in those 40 years a wee bit - Corbyn dispute going to a posh University with 2 Es in his A levels ....
I like his brother the Scientists.....
 
Number_25 said:
Only just seen this.

I don't think people quite understand how to deal with identity politics.

Time and time again during Trump's election campaign, we were told that he was "finished" and that "this was the end" - but it never worked. Trump used this in his favor by suggesting that it's his support they're discounting.

The same goes for Brexit.

We need more.
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So we just need to give Tommy a hug or something?
 
peteblue said:
No one wanted it to pan out like this. The problem as I have stated previously is that our negotiating position has been fundamentally undermined by Remainers who have given the EU the impression that we could be bullied and coerced into changing our mind, hence the use of NI as an EU negotiating ploy. Even now the EU bureaucracy are taking this to the limit, believing that we will just cave in. Well my experience tells me that while we wanted a good deal for both parties, a bad deal for us should be walked away from, and it is only when both sides understand that this will happen that a deal will be done. Most U.K. businesses will have their plans fully in place by now, most U.K. banks similar. I do not believe that the EU are ready, but that is down to them. Now we just need our politicians to grow a backbone......
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This grates on me Pete.

You are talking real lives, freedom of daily movement, a fragile peace process, an economy that will undoubtedly suffer due to Brexit.

People, not just a negotiating ploy.
 
Armaghtoffee said:
This grates on me Pete.

You are talking real lives, freedom of daily movement, a fragile peace process, an economy that will undoubtedly suffer due to Brexit.

People, not just a negotiating ploy.
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I’m sorry, but I’m afraid that is precisely what the EU are doing. Everyone wants freedom of daily movement for the whole of Ireland, to maintain the peace process and ensure both economies do well. But I’m sorry, but it is the EU that will not move on this. The U.K. government is tearing itself apart trying to get a solution....
 
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