Dynamo Kiev v Everton. 19th March at 18.00.

[Allezfan]

We haven't played half as well this season as we did last season.

Christ, are you feeling alright?

I never thought you'd admit this season hadn't gone 100% to plan.

 

[Stanley Parker]

I suspect when @Stanley Parker asks :" You think that he has been found out this season?. Exactly how do you think that he has been found out?", that he is on popcorning drive.

Nice one Stan lol

If it's so obvious that other managers have found us out, perhaps you can tell me exactly what it is that they have found out about us.

And if they have found out how to play against us, then it should be easy to predict how QPR will play tomorrow.

You might also say that Premier League managers have found out how to play against, say, Burnley too - except, for some reason, Pellegrini.

 

[Stanley Parker]

Christ, are you feeling alright?

I never thought you'd admit this season hadn't gone 100% to plan.

You don't know me.

 

[Allezfan]

You don't know me.

I might. Do you know for sure that noone you know isn't also secretly a member of this forum?

 

[Stanley Parker]

I might. Do you know for sure that noone you know is also secretly a member of this forum?

If you did, then you wouldn't have been surprised.

 

[The Equaliser]

Not been back long thanks to Lufthansa,great trip apart from the 90 minutes watching the match.Nea reading the other 198 pages is anyone still defending Martinez ?.

Afraid so sir.

But they didn't spend £000s going all the way to Ukraine to be let down by that dross like you did.

 

[deipnosophist]

If it's so obvious that other managers have found us out, perhaps you can tell me exactly what it is that they have found out about us.

And if they have found out how to play against us, then it should be easy to predict how QPR will play tomorrow.

You might also say that Premier League managers have found out how to play against, say, Burnley too - except, for some reason, Pellegrini.

I like your schtick Stan.

PS. I trust it is a popcorning schtick, else.... cuckoo

 

[deipnosophist]

You don't know me.

We are getting a pretty good handle on you mate lol lol

 

[Stanley Parker]

We are getting a pretty good handle on you mate lol lol

I'm not so sure. I'd like to talk about tactics.

How many times have people said that we've been found out this season?

And now I've been negged for asking exactly what has been found out.

But nobody has yet given me an answer.

Roll on QPR.

 

[deipnosophist]

I'm not so sure. I'd like to talk about tactics.

How many times have people said that we've been found out this season?

And now I've been negged for asking exactly what has been found out.

But nobody has yet given me an answer.

Roll on QPR.

lol lol. You are either a skilled popcorner or genuinely ingenuous. Either way, I like the cut of your jib Stan lol lol

 

[Stanley Parker]

lol lol. You are either a skilled popcorner or genuinely ingenuous. Either way, I like the cut of your jib Stan lol lol

Thank you, deipno. You're living up to your name.

I thought I detected a little wobble after the Kiev game, but I'm pleased to see that your good humour has been restored.

I presume the QPR game will be played in the middle of your night.

 

[Abraders]

But you can hardly say that Liverpool have found us out.

And most Premier League managers talk as much nonsense as ours.

If they have found us out, what exactly is it that they have found out?

Similar to how Bayern beat Chelsea a while back.

That we're going to play safe possession, passing it sideways and backwards - up an down the flanks. The aim of this is to frustrate the opposition, often forcing one of their midfielders to eventually give in and bomb forward (losing his discipline and position) to try and win the ball back - this creates an opening for our team and this is where we shift gears and attempt to go forward.

Other than this, we pose little threat from set pieces as we'd rather go backwards 8/10 times.

 

[BigBlueConk]

So hundreds of posts later we can all agree we love Everton, but they aint 'arf frustrating to watch.

 

[Stanley Parker]

Similar to how Bayern beat Chelsea a while back.

That we're going to play safe possession, passing it sideways and backwards - up an down the flanks. The aim of this is to frustrate the opposition, often forcing one of their midfielders to eventually give in and bomb forward (losing his discipline and position) to try and win the ball back - this creates an opening for our team and this is where we shift gears and attempt to go forward.

Other than this, we pose little threat from set pieces as we'd rather go backwards 8/10 times.

You haven't explained why this unlikely tactic worked so well last season, but doesn't now that we have been found out.

And I can't identify the Bayern match.

2005 Champions League 5th round
Chelsea 4 Bayern 2
Bayern 3 Chelsea 2
Chelsea won 6-5 on aggregate

2012 UEFA Champions League Final
Bayern 1 Chelsea 1, Chelsea won 4-3 on penalties

2013 UEFA Super Cup
Bayern 2 Chelsea 2, Bayern won 5-4 on penalties

 

[Abraders]

You haven't explained why this unlikely tactic worked so well last season, but doesn't now that we have been found out.

And I can't identify the Bayern match.

2005 Champions League 5th round
Chelsea 4 Bayern 2
Bayern 3 Chelsea 2
Chelsea won 6-5 on aggregate

2012 UEFA Champions League Final
Bayern 1 Chelsea 1, Chelsea won 4-3 on penalties

2013 UEFA Super Cup
Bayern 2 Chelsea 2, Bayern won 5-4 on penalties

I might've quoted Bayern Chelsea wrongly, my bad - but it is definitely Bayern of whom Everton have studied.

I know this because my cousin is a coach at Everton (only like the under 16/18s or something), and when I saw him last year we had a big chat - all of that which I just told you about the passing etc, is exactly what Bayern do and Roberto explained all this along with huge %'s and numbers etc to the entire Coaching team (including my cousin).

I don't really think he would lie to me about this.

But in response to how we've been found it, is that the difference is - last year teams didn't exactly know what we were getting up to - but this year, having studied our own videos it will probably be relatively easy for them to work out our attacking patterns. Thus telling their midfielders to not be hasty, and just wait for us to give up possession on our own. Think about it, teams LET us play around them knowing we will do nothing. That, or they press us for 90 minutes all over the pitch and we have no idea what to do.

Edit: It might well have been the Bayern thrashing of Barcelona. That aggregate 7-0 or something.