Dynamo Kiev v Everton. 19th March at 18.00.

[royalblue66]

The team has been found out in that, the entire Prem has found us out. Prem managers such as Fat Sam have even said those words, that we've been found out.

Teams know how we're going to play, more than our own team knows how they're going to play!

Mark Hughes said his plan to beat Everton worked a treat.

 

[daz4matty]

Mark Hughes said his plan to beat Everton worked a treat.

Twice

 

[Stanley Parker]

The team has been found out in that, the entire Prem has found us out. Prem managers such as Fat Sam have even said those words, that we've been found out.

Teams know how we're going to play, more than our own team knows how they're going to play!

It's easy to say that the team has been found out. But can you tell me how we're going to play, and exactly what our opponents do to stop us?

And you think that the entire Prem has found us out - with the notable exception of our neighbours, of course. Why do you think that is?

 

[streeky]

Mark Hughes said his plan to beat Everton worked a treat.

Good one hughesy , his plan, if you google how to set up a team to get beat it shows a picture of our manager.

 

[Abraders]

It's easy to say that the team has been found out. But can you tell me how we're going to play, and exactly what our opponents do to stop us?

And you think that the entire Prem has found us out - with the notable exception of our neighbours, of course. Why do you think that is?

Well when we're playing Liverpool, nobody for Everton is going to roll over. And tbh, we got [Poor language removed] battered in that 1-1 an were very lucky that Jags scored a worldy for us.

Also, i'm saying that genuinely - prem managers have said this about us. I'm not just saying they have, they themselves have said it.

 

[Stanley Parker]

Mark Hughes said his plan to beat Everton worked a treat.

Twice

Ridiculous - neither game was decided by Stoke's superior tactics.

The 0-1 home defeat was very much against the run of play. The deciding factor was the referee. Walters escaped a red card when he pulled back Baines as he ran clear on goal. The referee awarded a penalty when Bojan fell over beside McCarthy.

And there was another ridiculous penalty given against us in the game at the Etihad. Result - again lost 1-0.

The 2-0 away defeat at Stoke was our fifth game in fourteen days - the team was exhausted.

But it's been that kind of season.

 

[Stanley Parker]

Well when we're playing Liverpool, nobody for Everton is going to roll over. And tbh, we got [Poor language removed] battered in that 1-1 an were very lucky that Jags scored a worldy for us.

Also, i'm saying that genuinely - prem managers have said this about us. I'm not just saying they have, they themselves have said it.

But you can hardly say that Liverpool have found us out.

And most Premier League managers talk as much nonsense as ours.

If they have found us out, what exactly is it that they have found out?

 

[royalblue66]

But you can hardly say that Liverpool have found us out.

And most Premier League managers talk as much nonsense as ours.

If they have found us out, what exactly is it that they have found out?

How to beat us would be one answer.

 

[Stanley Parker]

How to beat us would be one answer.

But you can't tell me exactly what they have found out or exactly what they do to beat us.

Is it a secret known only to Premier League managers?

Do they all do the same thing, or is every game different?

And exactly how are QPR going to play against us tomorrow?

 

[royalblue66]

But you can't tell me exactly what they have found out or exactly what they do to beat us.

Is it a secret known only to Premier League managers?

Do they all do the same thing, or is every game different?
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And exactly how are QPR going to play against us tomorrow?

I can tell you something mate,there are times when you walk out of GP ,like after the Stoke game when you hold your hands up and admit they have done a job is,like park the bus and watch us while we go sideways ,sideways,back sideways suck us in,and then bang, martinez and his obsession with possession means sweet f a, we all know that if we don't score in the first 30 mins, there is a good chance we are going to lose, it's not rocket science,plus against teams like Stoke we have trouble with set pieces.

 

[Stanley Parker]

I can tell you something mate,there are times when you walk out of GP ,like after the Stoke game when you hold your hands up and admit they have done a job is,like park the bus and watch us while we go sideways ,sideways,back sideways suck us in,and then bang, martinez and his obsession with possession means sweet f a, we all know that if we don't score in the first 30 mins, there is a good chance we are going to lose, it's not rocket science,plus against teams like Stoke we have trouble with set pieces.

Don't believe Hughes when he says he had a master plan. Stoke didn't do anything to earn their win at Goodison - they were simply lucky.

The BBC report says;

Stoke conceded three clear first-half openings - one to Gareth Barry and two to Mirallas - but keeper Asmir Begovic was well-protected despite some late pressure. But the game hinged on two quick-fire decisions from Mason.

At one end, left-back Baines burst through Stoke's defence and was hauled back crudely by Walters. But the official adjudged that with Baines 45 yards out and other defenders giving chase, it wasn't a definite goal-scoring opportunity.

In a pivotal 60 seconds, Bojan then latched on to a long Whelan clearance, held-off McCarthy, sped around him along the byeline and went down under what appeared to be minimal contact.

 

[deipnosophist]

But he introduced completely new tactics for the defence last season. He played two new players - Barry and McCarthy - as defensive midfielders. Then, when the fullbacks went forward, Barry (or sometimes McCarthy) would drop back with Jagielka and Distin. And Coleman had a much greater share of the attacking duties and came on enormously last season.

I don't think these tactics relied on Moyes's heritage. Not many fans complained last season, it was like a breath of fresh air.

And I don't think that the cup results support your case. Roberto knew that the Europa League would impose a heavy burden on them. At Swansea in the League Cup, he played a weakened team the week before the Europa League started.

The FA Cup produced a good reaction in the first game, while the replay at West Ham was probably the best performance of the season. With ten men, they went from losing 1-0 to winning 2-1, only to lose 9-8 on penalties when Robles failed to score.

Unfortunately, the team hasn't built on last season. You think that he has been found out this season. Exactly how do you think that he has been found out?

Have you seen our results this season?

 

[maccavennie]

Have you seen our results this season?

Doesn't count mate, all about last season. It's almost like a buy now pay 12 months later finance deal. Yeah sure you can have a great season but then your gonna pay for it the following year

 

[deipnosophist]

I suspect when @Stanley Parker asks :" You think that he has been found out this season?. Exactly how do you think that he has been found out?", that he is on popcorning drive.

Nice one Stan lol

 

[Stanley Parker]

Have you seen our results this season?

We haven't played half as well this season as we did last season.

But I don't think Moyes should get the credit for the way our defenders played last season. We played a new system introduced by Roberto with new players brought in by Roberto.

And I thought that our performance in the FA Cup replay at West Ham was probably our best performance of this season.

Are you really going to argue otherwise?