Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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Thank you for summarizing the vast majority of the previous 12,354 posts in this thread.

However, by not providing balance, you have failed to observe the principle that in order to stage a quality debate, both arguments - and there can only be two - are of mathematically equal merit at all times. QED.

You should have also mentioned something about Hillary's emails, or the fact that Abe fed the fish first. Or that Duterte has overseen impressive development in the funerary services industry, and that Kadryrov is merely responding to reasonable people's frustrations with political correctness.

You have failed in your mission to identify with what you perceive as the exact geographical middle point in any discussion. I'm very disappointed in you for lowering the quality of the debate. Tut tut. Please review Robert's Rules of Order three times before posting here again.

And I hope the rest of us can transcend hese petty partisan quarrels, rise above the fray, and view all situations anywhere with 100% pure rational objective detachment.

Thanks for filling in. Nice work. Been reading the Esquire year-later-navel-gazer on election night and came to this line which made me howl with laughter.

Evan McMullin: I looked at my staffers. In my mind’s eye, they were all seated up against this wall. They were disappointed, they were afraid, all of that. I told them that I didn’t want to see any long faces. I told them to buck up. And it had no effect.

Kind of sums up Evan McMuffin, doesn't it? Here's the link. Enjoy.

Also this:

Gary Johnson: Well, I was really disappointed at the results. But what I came to very quickly was, as I’ve said many, many, many, times, if I wasn't elected president, I was going to ski a hundred-plus days and I was also going to ride the Continental Divide bike race.

Great, Gary. Put your shirt back on.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a13266971/election-2016-behind-the-scenes/
 
I think you are onto what his base believes. Many of the comments from friends and coworkers i hear is "he outspoken (in a good way apparently)", "says what he feels", "hes tough"

If you notice some of the people Trump lauds in the world its those like Duterte etc...

He has either praised or congratulated most of them now at this point.

He is a fan of the dictator types and sometime i think he believes he can act like them too. I think his attempts to bully people and dis them every time they upset or don't praise him speaks volumes.

In his early days when he won he was looking for loop holes and presidential things not written down so he didn't have to follow them or he could exploit them instead of following suit and respecting the office.

The problem is he can never back any of it up with anything of substance and he's lucky Ryan and McConnell are weak and all about themselves.

Solid analysis that.


Dangerous people...alt right is just a fancy way of saying white supremacy.



I'm 100% on Gary Younge's side here. The only interesting thing Spencer said was that Trump also feels a 'sense of loss' and that's why so many voted for him. This sense of loss, however justified or even real, is a theme that should be looked at in more detail. Not to bring whatever it is back, but to understand what is meant and at least for the Democrat push in 2020 to appeal to this sense in some form (in order to win).


Thank you for summarizing the vast majority of the previous 12,354 posts in this thread.

However, by not providing balance, you have failed to observe the principle that in order to stage a quality debate, both arguments - and there can only be two - are of mathematically equal merit at all times. QED.

You should have also mentioned something about Hillary's emails, or the fact that Abe fed the fish first. Or that Duterte has overseen impressive development in the funerary services industry, and that Kadryrov is merely responding to reasonable people's frustrations with political correctness.

You have failed in your mission to identify with what you perceive as the exact geographical middle point in any discussion. I'm very disappointed in you for lowering the quality of the debate. Tut tut. Please review Robert's Rules of Order three times before posting here again.

And I hope the rest of us can transcend hese petty partisan quarrels, rise above the fray, and view all situations anywhere with 100% pure rational objective detachment.

touché lol


Bingo.
Although a strongman is usually quite smart/tactical (like Putin)
Pretty sure Trump is flying by the seat of his pants and will do anything to improve his 'ratings'. This is the reason everyone should be concerned.
Oh look, Syria just joined the Paris accord.

I disagree Putin is a strongman in the mould of Duterte or Kadyrov (Putin effectively employs Kadyrov in that role). He does fit the template in matters holding on to power, macho photo ops, timely videos of him heroically sorting out some problem and a fan of pomp, so enough elements are there if you want to make the argument he is a strongman-type.

But he is a strong leader (not a strongman, per se) and he's intelligent, analytical and not nearly as dangerous as he's made out to be.
 
Thank you for summarizing the vast majority of the previous 12,354 posts in this thread.

However, by not providing balance, you have failed to observe the principle that in order to stage a quality debate, both arguments - and there can only be two - are of mathematically equal merit at all times. QED.

You should have also mentioned something about Hillary's emails, or the fact that Abe fed the fish first. Or that Duterte has overseen impressive development in the funerary services industry, and that Kadryrov is merely responding to reasonable people's frustrations with political correctness.

You have failed in your mission to identify with what you perceive as the exact geographical middle point in any discussion. I'm very disappointed in you for lowering the quality of the debate. Tut tut. Please review Robert's Rules of Order three times before posting here again.

And I hope the rest of us can transcend hese petty partisan quarrels, rise above the fray, and view all situations anywhere with 100% pure rational objective detachment.

Yer ma.
 
Good speech by Bill Clinton, he says a lot of perceptive things. I especially enjoyed this:

No country on Earth has anything like the number of mass killings we do, but we don't talk to each other. A lot of people make a lot of money out of promoting paranoia, but we haven't found the language to overcome it. And we must.

 
Thanks for filling in. Nice work. Been reading the Esquire year-later-navel-gazer on election night and came to this line which made me howl with laughter.

Evan McMullin: I looked at my staffers. In my mind’s eye, they were all seated up against this wall. They were disappointed, they were afraid, all of that. I told them that I didn’t want to see any long faces. I told them to buck up. And it had no effect.

Kind of sums up Evan McMuffin, doesn't it? Here's the link. Enjoy.

Also this:

Gary Johnson: Well, I was really disappointed at the results. But what I came to very quickly was, as I’ve said many, many, many, times, if I wasn't elected president, I was going to ski a hundred-plus days and I was also going to ride the Continental Divide bike race.

Great, Gary. Put your shirt back on.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a13266971/election-2016-behind-the-scenes/
Probably the best line is the last one:

Gary Johnson: Well for me, just speaking personally, I do not aspire to be president of the United States anymore. Why would anybody want to be president of the United States now that Donald Trump's been president of the United States?
 
I'm 100% on Gary Younge's side here. The only interesting thing Spencer said was that Trump also feels a 'sense of loss' and that's why so many voted for him. This sense of loss, however justified or even real, is a theme that should be looked at in more detail. Not to bring whatever it is back, but to understand what is meant and at least for the Democrat push in 2020 to appeal to this sense in some form (in order to win)

In Spencer's case it's a sense of loss of white dominance. I think Trump panders exactly to that specific sense of loss.

It's funny how the right constantly slate the left with so called 'identity politics' when that is exactly the core of the alt-right movement. Retention of some sort of identity from days gone by. When Spencer said that Younge will never be an Englishman it speaks specifically to the identity politics that he believes. In his eyes only white people are Americans.
 
Probably the best line is the last one:

Gary Johnson: Well for me, just speaking personally, I do not aspire to be president of the United States anymore. Why would anybody want to be president of the United States now that Donald Trump's been president of the United States?

You're right. There has to be a reward for reading the whole thing.
 

More than 200,000 Americans chose a plan on Nov. 1, the day open enrollment began, according to one administration official. That’s more than double the number of consumers who signed up on the first day of enrollment last year. More than 1 million people visited HeathCare.gov, the official federal website, the official said, which amounts to roughly a 33 percent increase in traffic compared with 2016.
 
Carter Page can't remember if he spoke about buying a stake of Rosneft during his July 2016 trip to Moscow (a key claim from the Steele dossier) because he was too focused on the Euros, sounds like a real fan.

"He may have briefly mentioned it when we were looking up from this Portugal — Ronaldo, whoever the — you know, the goals that are being scored. That may have come up. But I have no definitive recollection of that."
 
so, Virginia predictions?

the Dems went with this same firm that did ads for Ossoff

what happened to the vomit emoji? absolute drivel. the Republicans racebait with preposterous lies about MS13 and sanctuary cities, and the Dems respond with elevator muzak.

when we lose, the Republicans will control the state house and both of its legislatures. like North Carolina and Wisconsin, it is certain to join the growing list of states with healthy majorities of voters who prefer the Democrats, gerrymandered into permanent Republican majorities.
 
so, Virginia predictions?

the Dems went with this same firm that did ads for Ossoff

what happened to the vomit emoji? absolute drivel. the Republicans racebait with preposterous lies about MS13 and sanctuary cities, and the Dems respond with elevator muzak.

when we lose, the Republicans will control the state house and both of its legislatures. like North Carolina and Wisconsin, it is certain to join the growing list of states with healthy majorities of voters who prefer the Democrats, gerrymandered into permanent Republican majorities.


Dang, abe. You made me do it.



Better?
 


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