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Offer still stands...
This is insane. They are literally American citizens.
Fedlingen
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To be completely fair the responder is almost certainly a twitter bot.
Where's the kickstarter link?
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
How on earth am I swimmming 'close to the edge'. I disagree with sports getting involved with politics and I disagree with people who disrespect a country's national anthem. What is so hard to understand. I don't post in here to wind anyone up, but neither will I follow sheep like with the flow on something with which I disagree just to keep people happy. We all understand that these sport stars want to make some form of protest, well here's an idea, don't play, close down the whole game, receive no income, do a bit of suffering for their cause. Then they will get respect, unlike the disrespect they are giving to those for whom the Anthem was written. But hey, I'm not an American, defend your own Flag and Anthem....
Fedlingen
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He genuinely can't say anything without looking like a complete a**hole.
Just to show the devastation of the hurricane here's some pictures from around San Juan.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Q.E.D........
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
Are you like this in your work. Do you normally attempt to denigrate by using words or phrases such as 'idiocy', 'intellectually lazy', 'talking crap'. I find your fallback position to instantly use insulting language rather off putting tbh......
Peteblue: Nonsense, idiocy, ISIS, "confederate flag is about freedom" blah blah blah, more nonsense, more idiocy, condescending suggestions...
Everyone else: Shut up you fool
Peteblue: I think I'm doing a good job getting people to see both sides.
Peteblue: Nonsense, idiocy, ISIS, confederate flag is about freedom, blah blah blah, more nonsense, more idiocy, condescending suggestions...
verreauxi: You're spouting off idiocy
Peteblue: why do you have to make this personal?
Pete give it a rest would you. If your intention was to wind people up, then congratulations job done!!
You have a habit of arguing something just for the sake of an argument on many of the threads in the current affairs section.
Stick to the good points you have made and stop with the nonsense.
We all get your stance so stop being an agitator.
Thing is a lot of Americans don't realise that and i bet Trump is one of them. I bet someone had to tell him that it was part of the states.
See i think it hasn't been in the news just for that reason that many people could care less and forget it situation and most likely lump it in with being just another central american latin country.
You disagree with sports getting involved in politics. Fine. However, it is an American tradition. As for the playing of the National Anthem at sporting events, the act alone is a political one so what you are really saying is you object to the politics of those who are kneeling.
You disagree with people who are disrespectful of a country's national anthem. Fine. In America, peaceful demonstration during the National Anthem is allowed and the persons who started the protests intentionally decided to kneel so as not to be overtly disrespectful. In America people are also free not to participate in singing the National Anthem or to not pay proper homage - which is what the vast majority choose to do in the stadiums or at home when watching a game.
You may continue to espouse the notion the players who are kneeling are being disrespectful to those for whom the Anthem is written. However, this is utterly and completely an incorrect statement. It belies an incomplete understanding of the anthem and what it represents. FS Key wrote the poem about what he saw after the bombardment of Fort McHenry in the Battle of Baltimore but the constant refrain in all the stanzas of the poem (only the first is sung in the anthem) is that the United States is the land of the free and the home of the brave.
I do not believe anyone is asking you to be a sheep, mindless in following the flock. Instead what I believe most are asking is that you be more mindful of what you say.
Personally, I don't like it when people fail to remove their hats or choose to continue their conversations or keep munching on their nachos during the National Anthem. That kind of casual disregard bothers me. When someone intentionally chooses to make a point during the Anthem, I simply want to know why.
Fedlingen
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Kaepernick isn't playing and doesn't have a contract in the NFL.
Regarding knowing about Kaepernick you said:
It's a civil rights protest, started by this individual. The fact that you disregard the man and the reason for his protest to focus solely on fake patriotism at an athletics event is to me utterly disgusting and shows a lack of basic empathy and understanding.
Should've seen this coming when you more or less called the previous first lady a nobody.
Are you like this in your work?
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
I'm retired now, but I suppose yes, as in my previous roles getting as quickly as possible to the key issues and problems was incredibly important, empathy didn't really come into it.......
@Fedlingen yup, that's the key point.
To say Kaepernick is of no importance to the debate is to show real ignorance of the debate.
Then to follow up with statements like the civil war being the same as the revolutionary war and the confederate flag being a symbol of freedom, leads me to believe that Pete is either a Wum or something more sinister. Sorry Pete, you may complain about me playing the man and not the ball but your views on this thread range from disappointing to concerning, and that's putting it as politely as possible.
To say Kaepernick is of no importance to the debate is to show real ignorance of the debate.
Then to follow up with statements like the civil war being the same as the revolutionary war and the confederate flag being a symbol of freedom, leads me to believe that Pete is either a Wum or something more sinister. Sorry Pete, you may complain about me playing the man and not the ball but your views on this thread range from disappointing to concerning, and that's putting it as politely as possible.
abelard
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"While the Left’s back was turned, the bourgeoisification of the white proletariat which began in WWII and continued up through the Vietnam War has been halted, and the process has gone into reverse. America is now proletarianizing its bourgeoisie, and this process is likely to culminate in bottom-up revolt, of the sort [Pat] Buchanan hopes to foment."
"The super-rich will have to keep up the pretense that national politics might someday make a difference. Since economic decisions are their prerogative, they will encourage politicians of both the Left and the Right, to specialize in cultural issues. The aim will be to keep the minds of the proles elsewhere – to keep the bottom 75 percent of Americans and the bottom 95 percent of the world’s population busy with ethnic and religious hostilities, and with debates about sexual mores. If the proles can be distracted from their own despair by media-created pseudo-events…the super-rich will have little to fear."
- Richard Rorty, 1988
"The super-rich will have to keep up the pretense that national politics might someday make a difference. Since economic decisions are their prerogative, they will encourage politicians of both the Left and the Right, to specialize in cultural issues. The aim will be to keep the minds of the proles elsewhere – to keep the bottom 75 percent of Americans and the bottom 95 percent of the world’s population busy with ethnic and religious hostilities, and with debates about sexual mores. If the proles can be distracted from their own despair by media-created pseudo-events…the super-rich will have little to fear."
- Richard Rorty, 1988
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