Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

[abelard]

They were seeking freedom from the north.....

and why do you think that was? what were they planning to do, or preserve, with autonomy from the north?

 

[LinekersLegs]

It was a civil war. Just like the war of Independence. .....

One fought over the right to keep other humans as slaves, your minimization of that particular aspect annoys me a hell of a lot more than any kneeling could ever do. Good night.

 

[peteblue]

and why do you think that was? what were they planning to do, or preserve, with autonomy from the north?

Preserve their way of life, in whatever form it took ?.....but this is beside the current topic.....

 

[RAFUH]

Alright, I'll chip in to distract Pete with a pint or 12 so we can move on from this WUM-fest.

 

[peteblue]

One fought over the right to keep other humans as slaves, your minimization of that particular aspect annoys me a hell of a lot more than any kneeling could ever do. Good night.

 

[peteblue]

Alright, I'll chip in to distract Pete with a pint or 12 so we can move on from this WUM-fest.

Be honest, it woke a few up......and I would hope made one or two think a bit more about 'just kneeling'......

Anyway, it's time for sleep.....

 

[BlueTX]

No mate, I have no idea who Colin Kaepernick is or what he stands for. I do however, even as a Brit, have some idea what your flag and anthem mean to your people, or perhaps I should say I used to. I think you guys are ripping yourselves apart, and I've said so throughout this thread. First it was Trump, then is was the Confederates, then the Statues, and now your own flag. It's your flag, your history, your military, your beliefs......but don't start complaining when anyone outside of the USA treats your Stars and Stripes and hand on the heart with derision when you don't give a stuff yourselves....

So you don't understand the beginnings of the protest. You "used to" have an understanding of how Americans viewed the flag and anthem. You create a false comparison of the NFL players and ISIS. All respect mate, but what are you really bringing to this discussion?

I don't know what WUM is but seems you are being a bit foolish or, as the kids in America say, "derp".

 

[bobbydigital]

Alright, I'll chip in to distract Pete with a pint or 12 so we can move on from this WUM-fest.

Tell you what, I will chip in with a flight to the states and we can all watch him go and tell black people the confederate flag is a symbol of freedom.

 

[peteblue]

Freedom for whites to own slaves.

Yeah, exactly the same

Well, starting with George Washington, here's a list of American Presidents who owned slaves....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_who_owned_slaves

 

[Fedlingen]

Tell you what, I will chip in with a flight to the states and we can all watch him go and tell black people the confederate flag is a symbol of freedom.

Are we starting a kickstarter?

 

[abelard]

and I would hope made one or two think a bit more about 'just kneeling'......

nope, nobody. not from this.

and, just to be clear, you literally stated this: "The [American] flag is not an American symbol for freedom. If anything that is what the confederate flag was"

like I said earlier, stick to Brexit WUMming. you don't even know how much you don't know here.

 

[Fedlingen]

Well, starting with George Washington, here's a list of American Presidents who owned slaves....

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_who_owned_slaves

What's your end goal here? I'm honestly really, really interested.

 

[RAFUH]

Be honest, it woke a few up......and I would hope made one or two think a bit more about 'just kneeling'......

Anyway, it's time for sleep.....

Afraid not if that was what you were trying to accomplish as you completely missed the point of it all ...both the initial event (which occurred while Obama was POTUS, btw) and the subsequent fire storm caused by Trump not understanding or caring what it means to be President.

 

[peteblue]

Tell you what, I will chip in with a flight to the states and we can all watch him go and tell black people the confederate flag is a symbol of freedom.

Obviously not today, but back in 1861, that's probably what the South thought. History needs to be understood at the time and not by today's standards.....

 

[BlueTX]

But back to my question. If a bunch of Europeans knelt down, or even some of them, while the anthem was being played, what really would you feel. No bullshit, no defending a point on an internet, how would you really feel........

Silly hypothetical but I'd want to know what made them protest in such a public way.