Current Affairs Donald Trump POS: Judgement cometh and that right soon

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Say what you will about Iran's leaders, but they do a great line in rhetoric

“He both threatened the system as well as the nation ... The body of this man, Trump, will turn to ashes and become the food of the worms and ants, while the Islamic Republic continues to stand.”
 
This is how you comment Steve, which I don't object to, but which is much different from the portrait of objective, fair-minded debate you're painting here:

Really that's what you have haha!! Ok then haha!!

These are fact based opinions formed from reading his twitter, the news and his speeches. If you cannot see this sh** then maybe you are the one not being objective haha!! and maybe you are weak for defending such stuff...

Now none of what I posted there is untrue or weak.

Are you telling me he gets criticized by his own supporters and the GOP for his continued attacks on the left or anyone who disagrees with him?
His continued vitriol attacks on Obama and the Clinton's despite them being irrelevant now?

These were comments made based on my observations and from what i read from multiple sources. I dislike the man for his lying. For his continued attacks on opponents and the media.

Come of it now of course it would appear biased to someone who contunially attacks anyone who is no conservative and who labels anyone who you disagree with a liberal

If anything your response and evidence is weak.

Like i said. In your mind anyone who objects to Trump is a lefty or a lefty who hates him. Tell me again how you dislike him. Your sepnd enough time defending him and telling the rest of us how pathetic we are with our dislike of him
 
Really that's what you have haha!! Ok then haha!!

These are fact based opinions formed from reading his twitter, the news and his speeches. If you cannot see this sh** then maybe you are the one not being objective haha!! and maybe you are weak for defending such stuff...

Now none of what I posted there is untrue or weak.

Are you telling me he gets criticized by his own supporters and the GOP for his continued attacks on the left or anyone who disagrees with him?
His continued vitriol attacks on Obama and the Clinton's despite them being irrelevant now?

These were comments made based on my observations and from what i read from multiple sources. I dislike the man for his lying. For his continued attacks on opponents and the media.

Come of it now of course it would appear biased to someone who contunially attacks anyone who is no conservative and who labels anyone who you disagree with a liberal

If anything your response and evidence is weak.

Like i said. In your mind anyone who objects to Trump is a lefty or a lefty who hates him. Tell me again how you dislike him. Your sepnd enough time defending him and telling the rest of us how pathetic we are with our dislike of him

Gonna give it up now Steve. You claimed I was partisan and you were merely some objective observer. I said I didn't think that was true. You asked for examples, so I pointed out you going after Trump and insulting conservatives. Now you're going on an entirely new Trump tirade, inventing things I haven't said (that you're pathetic for disliking Trump) and suggesting I'm weak for "defending" whatever it is you're going on about (I really can't keep up).
 
With respect, "the system is obviously broken if anyone can continue to stand by this President" is far more debate-ish that conversational, IMO. I think you guys are being a bit unrealistic here.
It was an opinion, voiced out of frustration, not necessarily an invitation to debate the merits of the system.
And even if it was debate-ish, I'd be far more willing to debate the merits of the system if I didnt think you were just on here arguing for fun
 
Gonna give it up now Steve. You claimed I was partisan and you were merely some objective observer. I said I didn't think that was true. You asked for examples, so I pointed out you going after Trump and insulting conservatives. Now you're going on an entirely new Trump tirade, inventing things I haven't said (that you're pathetic for disliking Trump) and suggesting I'm weak for "defending" whatever it is you're going on about (I really can't keep up).

Good, its about time give us a break from your nonsense.
 
It was an opinion, voiced out of frustration, not necessarily an invitation to debate the merits of the system.
And even if it was debate-ish, I'd be far more willing to debate the merits of the system if I didnt think you were just on here arguing for fun

For the record, I'm not objecting to the appropriateness of your comment. As for debating for fun, I'm not sure why it can't be both substantive and fun. I could see your concern if I was just trying to get you worked up for fun, but that's not what I'm doing. I don't say things I don't mean (or if I do, it's very obvious I'm joking).
 
In my opinion Trump brings on the negative media coverage himself. I mean let's face it his behavior during his candidacy was beyond disrespectful to so many people.

His tenuous grasp of the truth I think is what infuriates people even more. Rolling Spicey out to berate the media on his first press briefing about their coverage of the inauguration crowd size? That's was the tone from the beginning. Conway talking about 'alternative facts' (lies) was similarly infuriating.

The longer he's been in office the less and less credible his administration is because of the lack of transparency, lies, cover ups attempts, etc, etc, etc. Even his Iran announcement yesterday was filled with misinformation...or is it disinformation?

He can blame whomever he wants to for how he is covered in the media but he has nobody to blame but himself IMO. He does himself no favors by only appearing on Fox News...which isn't even news even though the people who watch it view it thay way.

If he bans folks from the media pool for negative coverage and his supporters celebrate, we are one more step closer to a authoritarian democracy.
 
2 things from Trumps speech:

He wrongly blamed Iran for funding the Taliban and Al Queda. That statement is so far removed from reality it is laughable. Luckily there's no historical precedent(except when George W Bush claimed Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11 and great pals with Osama Bin Laden. That ended well!)

John Bolton, the architect of American foreign policy in Iraq along with the other hawks in Bush's administration, was prominent in the background as Trump spewed his Bile. How someone so closely associated with the biggest foreign policy disaster of this century and arguably the last can return to a position of influence in dictating future foreign policy beggars belief. It's like history repeating itself in the most horrific way imaginable.

Trump fancies war with Iran and is being ably cheered on by the Saudi and Israeli states. How anyone can defend Trump and his corrupt administration is beyond belief and i have read nothing plausible to change my opinion. He's a feckin gangster.

Allardyce out!
 
Really that's what you have haha!! Ok then haha!!

These are fact based opinions formed from reading his twitter, the news and his speeches. If you cannot see this sh** then maybe you are the one not being objective haha!! and maybe you are weak for defending such stuff...

Now none of what I posted there is untrue or weak.

Are you telling me he gets criticized by his own supporters and the GOP for his continued attacks on the left or anyone who disagrees with him?
His continued vitriol attacks on Obama and the Clinton's despite them being irrelevant now?

These were comments made based on my observations and from what i read from multiple sources. I dislike the man for his lying. For his continued attacks on opponents and the media.

Come of it now of course it would appear biased to someone who contunially attacks anyone who is no conservative and who labels anyone who you disagree with a liberal

If anything your response and evidence is weak.

Like i said. In your mind anyone who objects to Trump is a lefty or a lefty who hates him. Tell me again how you dislike him. Your sepnd enough time defending him and telling the rest of us how pathetic we are with our dislike of him

Yet most left leaning posters on here continue to decry Margaret Thatcher, and she is still dead......
 
Conservatives have spent decades building a critique of mainstream news, lovingly compiling examples of biased or allegedly biased reporting, and constructing an echo chamber in which the dread Liberal Media can be ignored. Donald Trump is in many ways the culmination of these habits, which he exploited by grasping early on that Republican voters would be willing to forgive literally any lies he uttered, however obvious, because they had been trained to disregard all sources of independent fact.
 
Yet most left leaning posters on here continue to decry Margaret Thatcher, and she is still dead......
Are any of those posters President of the United States?
Really not the same thing though is it Pete?
One thing a voter being unhappy with an administration or person in an administration than the actual person in charge being the moaner ot disgruntled person.
He should have better things to do. Its embarrassing when he does it in front of world leaders and the worlds media. He should know better.
 
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