Donald Trump for President Thread

[ToffeeTim]

He seems a little bit more conciliatory now after he's won. Unsurprising I suppose.

His behaviour almost reminds me of a boxer. Diabolical trash talk and nastiness before the event but respect appears afterwards.

But as I've already said. It's not the end of the world. The dramatics in the media are tedious. Very little will change. It never does.
Nor would it have if Clinton had won.

 

[tsubaki]

yeah..i actually reckon he's personally fairly liberal on social issues, he's obviously hedonistic and strikes me as not being that bothered about abortion, gay rights etc as long as it doesnt stop him making money/doing what he wants

he is by far the most left-wing Republican nominee in the past forty years - certainly I can't think of another one that praised single-payer healthcare

 

[ijjysmith]

He seems a little bit more conciliatory now after he's won. Unsurprising I suppose.

His behaviour almost reminds me of a boxer. Diabolical trash talk and nastiness before the event but respect appears afterwards.

But as I've already said. It's not the end of the world. The dramatics in the media are tedious. Very little will change. It never does.
Nor would it have if Clinton had won.

I believe this is all how I feel about the whole thing too.

 

[squonk]

another brick in the wall part 1

run like hell

 

[Whistlin' Dixie]

1) When has life been better for the poor in Britain and America than it is today?

Oh sure, it's not quite the workhouse yet; we've never had it so good have we, Ebeneezer MacMillan?

 

[orly]

He seems a little bit more conciliatory now after he's won. Unsurprising I suppose.

His behaviour almost reminds me of a boxer. Diabolical trash talk and nastiness before the event but respect appears afterwards.

But as I've already said. It's not the end of the world. The dramatics in the media are tedious. Very little will change. It never does.
Nor would it have if Clinton had won.

Definitely.

Had the Establishment politicians acted differently towards the outcomes of the Financial crisis - greater regulation, break-up of megabanks, arrests and prosecutions - you wouldn't have the electorate taking the absolutely massive gamble they have taken in 2016.

People have stopped believing that these elections are a fair process. Sanders had everything against him. Trump was being guided through to essentially become a small roadblock in the procession for Clinton could take place. But people have been bombarded by media, social and mainstream, for so long that they now naturally take a more cynical approach to it. So rather than taking in weeks of being told that Clinton won THREE TELEVISED DEBATES they just thought, so what? It's stage-managed anyway, and of course she'll win them, she's a highly competent 30 year career politician.

If a fund manager gambles and it pays off, he's a hero who has made a fortune. Trump did much the same with his construction projects in New York. Now the electorate has also taken a Hail Mary bet, and it's racism and bigotry?

 

[wm02]

Election of 1828 revisited-the controversial, temperamental candidate (Trump-Andrew Jackson) rides to victory over the establishment (Clinton-John Quincy Adams) with the support of the previously underrepresented

 

[WA Toffee]

Let's face it, he's just going to be a puppet and mouthpiece for the real politicians behind the scenes.

 

[degsy]

It's all up in the air now. I'm even starting to like the sound of Corbyn - well on this anyway.

 

[orly]

Let's face it, he's just going to be a puppet and mouthpiece for the real politicians behind the scenes.

And he'd be wise to do so - if he picks the right ones around him. The one thing Trump has always done - not always for great reasons, no doubt - is to make deals. The parallels with Putin are amazing really; there is no doubt that he'll essentially be very difficult to pin any real policy orientation on. He'll not like abortion, but likely do nothing about it. Those naughty Muslims (but actually, if we sit down and make deals with them, maybe they'll be alright). KEEP OUT THE MEXICANS (except if you're already in America, or can generate business, or can do something for us).

For me, he's not really just become President, he's sort of become Chairman of America, Inc. and will let the CEO, COO and the rest do the actual work. Massive scandal notwithstanding, I think he'll stroll to two terms.

 

[degsy]

Election of 1828 revisited-the controversial, temperamental candidate (Trump-Andrew Jackson) rides to victory over the establishment (Clinton-John Quincy Adams) with the support of the previously underrepresented

and he sent the country into recession too

 

[The Cowboy]

Be proper funny if he goes on to be really good and America prospers.

 

[1966efc]

Be proper funny if he goes on to be really good and America prospers.

That would be put down to the vagaries of the world economy.

 

[The Esk]

It is the time of the demagogue.

Politicians have become both masters of, and servants of the media.

Trump chose the mastery of, rather than being the servant to, the media.

He created a product out of himself that appealed to popular desires and prejudices, rather than using rational argument and having detailed plans. It is exactly the same strategy as executed by Farage and the Leave campaign.

"You want change? I can give you change. Make America great again, big deals, great again"

If it was a political drama on TV it would have been entertaining, but these demagogues are playing with real lives, real businesses, real people - yet they don't have a bloody clue how to fix the problems they've used to gain power.

Yes, the political establishment created the conditions to allow such demagogy to occur, but as with Brexit, to see this as some form of victory for the poor, the sick, the needy, the uneducated, the elderly, and others of need is pure fantasy.

 

[Neiler]

Spare a thought for OIreland i currently have Brexit to the left of me, Trump to the right..........stuck in the middle..........!