2025/26 David Moyes

No. I’d get remove him from post now, get a new manager in to agree targets with the recruitment team. One whose style of play is attractive to transfer targets.

If we don’t sack him now, I suspect we will mid season, but if not we’re likely to not see much progress either this time next year.

We have a 21st century stadium watching 20th century football (and that’s being kind)
my fear is that he gets us conference league and that earns him a contract extension and we're stuck watching moyes football for the next 4/5 years and winning nothing.
 
….not sure ‘what style of play is attractive to transfer targets’ means. Arsenal are in a CL final here with 30% of the play but every player working their heart out because it matters. Saka was like a 2nd full back but at Everton Moyes gets criticised for wanting Dibling to work hard.
You're really coming out batting for Moyes. You should stop digging. That hole is only getting bigger
 
….not sure ‘what style of play is attractive to transfer targets’ means. Arsenal are in a CL final here with 30% of the play but every player working their heart out because it matters. Saka was like a 2nd full back but at Everton Moyes gets criticised for wanting Dibling to work hard.
I dont think anyone is criticising him for wanting Dibling to work hard. Plenty are criticising him for not giving the lad a chance to prove he can work hard
 
….not sure ‘what style of play is attractive to transfer targets’ means. Arsenal are in a CL final here with 30% of the play but every player working their heart out because it matters. Saka was like a 2nd full back but at Everton Moyes gets criticised for wanting Dibling to work hard.
You see that’s the difference. Players will play for a club that achieves results regardless of style of play because they achieve results. They will sacrifice how they play for the enjoyment of being competitive and winning things. Arsenal with 30% possession in a CL final is an entirely different proposition from Everton at home to Sunderland with 30% possession.

It’s either one or the other and preferably both. I’m not sure you’ll have a big talent pool of players that want to play for a manager that plays with an average of 40% possession that ends up 13th in the league. That’s the difference. There’s a lot we need in terms of players for first XI and the squad generally, but getting players in who can support attacks is a priority.

Modern footballs for example is all about your full backs being able to get forward. If I’m a full back who wants to get forward to support attacks and provide some width. I ain’t playing for Moyes.
 
….not sure ‘what style of play is attractive to transfer targets’ means. Arsenal are in a CL final here with 30% of the play but every player working their heart out because it matters. Saka was like a 2nd full back but at Everton Moyes gets criticised for wanting Dibling to work hard. Bournemouth play more

It’s all a bit of a nonsense. Points and wins make a difference, 5 or 6 points difference makes a difference.
We don't defend well either so I'm unsure what this point is, we conceded more goals than last season, and in Moyes final season at West Ham they conceded over 70 goals, so the manager is hardly some defensive mastermind.
 
He can't be advocating for transfer targets, we need to buy players for our future not for whoever happens to be manager at the time. Our committee has to be strong-willed, stronger than Kinnear was anyway
The squads still an unbalanced mess. If we buy players for the future this summer, we will be bottom half again at best. We need to spend a huge amount of money. Need players better than those in our current starting 11 regardless of age, just so we can stand still. AND we also need players for the future. It’s a massive task, and with last season, we are no more attractive to players than last year.

Plus, from a fan perspective we will complain about the “ready now” players we buy because it’s we want young sprinters. And we we will complain about any development players saying we should have spent the money on full backs, and why buy players we won’t play.

We needed ALL of last summer’s acquisitions to work JUST to set us up for the this summer. But Grealish got injured, Barry is Niasse/Tosun levels of crap, Dibling appears to have been a terrible bit of scouting personality wise, weve just stolen a year of Aznous career by even making an approach, one of our new keepers punches the ball backwards into his own face on his debut. KDH is the only one that worked. Maybe Rohl. He will feel a bit better now he’s got starts.

As it stands, we have to buy Rohl, George and re-loan Grealish just to have the same squad as this year.

I’d settle for the player for the future towards the end of the window. We need first 11 pace and quality right now.
 
You're really coming out batting for Moyes. You should stop digging. That hole is only getting bigger
TBH.
I think @Eggs has probably forgotten more about football than most of us will ever know.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I think it would serve us all well to realise their are others with a different but equally valid opinion.

This coming from someone who wanted Iraola as our manager next season.
We should remember however that with seven or eight games to go I think there were relatively few complaints about the manager.
It was the collapse in the last number of games that got the alarm bells ringing.
 
In 13 years between 2 spells in charge he’s more than proven hes simply not good enough especially now tge way modern football is, so why waste more time and tonnes of money on another season or more when we know what’s going to happen
 
….not sure ‘what style of play is attractive to transfer targets’ means. Arsenal are in a CL final here with 30% of the play but every player working their heart out because it matters. Saka was like a 2nd full back but at Everton Moyes gets criticised for wanting Dibling to work hard. Bournemouth play more

It’s all a bit of a nonsense. Points and wins make a difference, 5 or 6 points difference makes a difference.
Just one thing to add to this…you state that what I have posted is nonsense and you are of course entitled to your opinion, but if you can’t differentiate a one off game of 30% possession in a CL final vs what we play in each week, I don’t know what to tell you.

There’s a reason why players want to know what the plan is for them, when they speak with managers. They want to know who they’ll be used and what it potentially means for their own career progression. Players want to enjoy playing football. It’s how we all started out (unless you enjoyed playing with a low possession where your team could barely string five passes together and chance creation was extremely limited)
 
TBH.
I think @Eggs has probably forgotten more about football than most of us will ever know.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion but I think it would serve us all well to realise their are others with a different but equally valid opinion.

This coming from someone who wanted Iraola as our manager next season.
We should remember however that with seven or eight games to go I think there were relatively few complaints about the manager.
It was the collapse in the last number of games that got the alarm bells ringing.
The alarm bells were ringing for me when they appointed him.
 

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