2025/26 David Moyes

LinekersLegs said:
Just musing on this point, focusing on the last seven games isn’t really unfair or recency bias as it demonstrates weaknesses in planning and motivation - it highlights that your “plan b”, both squad and tactics, isn’t working.

It is like conceding in the final minutes of a game, which coincidentally we did quite a bit recently too.

We’re 18th in the form table, even Wolves are ahead of us and they had far more reason to lack motivation and longer injury list.

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People like to project our good runs 'if this was over a season we would be top of the universe ' Well on the critical run-in we are in the championship so go now Moyes. If you know football you know you are finished.
 
Dwight K Schrute said:
But again, players like Dibling and Aznou and George would add value under a better manager.

The transfer window looks worse because of the clown who is in charge of selection. That clown also didn't want full backs for reasons such as he didn't think there was anyone better than JOB, therefore, again, the 'issues' with recruitment are due to Moyes.

He's the main problem.
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Would they? What stats tell us that?
 
Dwight K Schrute said:
The broadly tracking bit. A real club would be so concerned about all the things you said, as well as the underlying metrics. Too many red flags to be ignored.

So, as to your point about a disproportionate view of the season, there is no disproportionate view. We've been shocking and were massively riding our luck when performing better. And that was borne out in the end.

As to the Pickford thing, you could have the greatest keeper that ever lived, but if you continue to give up chances like we were, you will
be found out. Therefore, Moyes was riding mostly on pure luck.
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That’s why when Bournemouth didn’t win in 3 months, the metrics told you they should have won some of them games, their board didn’t panic and they went unbeaten in the 2nd half of the season and now have Europe. I’m sure like most clubs we will be very much data driven moving forward, which doesn’t bode well for Moyes
 
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Jebus_lives said:
Clearly the last 7 games were extremely poor and should not be ignored, but I do think they’ve become disproportionate in how the entire season is being judged - which I alluded to in my original post.

Unfortunately, for those willing to persist with Moyes, poor form at the end of the season absolutely raises questions about squad depth, the managers adaptability and game management. Compounded by the number of late goals conceded.

But I’m not convinced it automatically invalidates the other games where we were broadly tracking toward a much more respectable finish than most expected in August. There lies the frustration.

Frustratingly once we were safe, the intensity clearly dropped (again the manager shoulders blame for not rotating) which isn’t unique to this group of players. But I can understand it given recent seasons battling relegation - a 'collective relax' perhaps.

For me, the more important issue is whether the club actually has a coherent football strategy. If the recruitment team is targeting younger profile players while the manager either doesn’t trust or doesn’t use them, then that disconnect is the real problem for next year; because that’s exactly the sort of thing that caused stagnation under previous regimes.
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The only measure by which a season should be judged is points gained and position earned. Everything else is just politics.

We finished 13th with 49 points. The same as last year and the same as the year before. This is not progress.
 
Jebus_lives said:
The broad point is: at the start of the season, 12th would've been expected. We performed better than that for much of the season, perhaps due to statistically anomoly @Dwight K Schrute, then faltered badly with 7 games to go.

My feeling is that was down to Moyes and it's been poor. But others seem to be willing to overlook it and consider the season as a whole.

I just don't know how we can look at our recruitment last year and think that is repeatable given the total lack of return on investment.
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After Sunderland the data had us 15th, maybe 16th now. That won’t be missed by the owners
 
windymiller said:
The only measure by which a season should be judged is points gained and position earned. Everything else is just politics.

We finished 13th with 49 points. The same as last year and the same as the year before. This is not progress.
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No but it is stability, which is maybe what the ownership were expecting.

We were also, as someone has just posted, one of the few teams to finish with a better points tally than the previous year.

But, as I said, the greater issue is the recruitment which failed us last summer, which we thought was "tough", will be much harder after other clubs have leapfrogged us, other top teams will invest to improve and we've let a manager marginalise younger players for most of the year.
 

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