2025/26 David Moyes

[rigg]

Pity Celtic don't fancy him.

 

[coollino]

Are you lot really going to talk about this all summer?

 

[Dwight K Schrute]

Great shout but to be fair a lot of us could also see it with our own eyes as well.

100 %. But I've heard a lot of people arguing the opposite- that the end of the season is the anomaly, rather than us levelling out from good luck.

 

[Marius57]

Just because Everton are comfortable with Moyes seeing out his contract doesn't mean Moyes feels the same way. Going into the final year of your deal with no leverage and no job security is not a position any manager wants to be in, he'd almost certainly be pushing for an extension. Hopefully TFG knock it back.

There’s no evidence of any new contract though which the poster made out like it had already happened.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Agreed on the broader footballing strategy and how that translates into operations and target setting but last 7 games aside or the first 31 (whichever way you choose to look at it) the only thing that actually matters is the 38 games and where we finally finished.

What I find staggering if we can see what a streamlined operational structure should look like where everyone is aligned yet the club regardless of ownership has not seemed to embrace that. This summer and then the early games of next year will really show how aligned the recruitment strategy and Moyes was.

The broad point is: at the start of the season, 12th would've been expected. We performed better than that for much of the season, perhaps due to statistically anomoly @Dwight K Schrute, then faltered badly with 7 games to go.

My feeling is that was down to Moyes and it's been poor. But others seem to be willing to overlook it and consider the season as a whole.

I just don't know how we can look at our recruitment last year and think that is repeatable given the total lack of return on investment.

 

[matty1878]

It strikes me as a leadership that don't know what they want or, league progress is secondary to what they want.

ye mate we don’t know which isn’t

helping us fans

 

[Blue peter]

What the end of this season does is put immense pressure on Moyes now going into the new season. If we start the first half a dozen games poorly, this run of poor results will be brought up time and time again. The only ‘calendar year’ points haul stats. He can’t afford a poor start.

 

[matty1878]

Matty, you KNOW Moyes isn't the long term answer because Moyes himself has said he's not the long term answer and he was talking retirement. If he's crap next year IN year, the coaches available are usually pretty awful. That's why most teams make changes in the summer. If he's not here long term then why stick with him at all?

It's stick or twist with him and I have no idea why anyone would want to stick.

TFG it’s all on them mate therye making the decisions

but what i’m pissed off with why our limbo? tell us what and how your going to move us forward

 

[matty1878]

That’s the only other reason I would want a new manager for next season 1) not only current availability but 2) it’s a good season to bed a new manager in if they do not also have to contend with Europe. It all appears moot anyway…I just think we are missing a trick.

catch 22 which will either work

or kick the can down the rd

 

[Jebus_lives]

The broadly tracking bit. A real club would be so concerned about all the things you said, as well as the underlying metrics. Too many red flags to be ignored.

So, as to your point about a disproportionate view of the season, there is no disproportionate view. We've been shocking and were massively riding our luck when performing better. And that was borne out in the end.

As to the Pickford thing, you could have the greatest keeper that ever lived, but if you continue to give up chances like we were, you will
be found out. Therefore, Moyes was riding mostly on pure luck.

I'm sorry, I don't look at football stats. I have no idea if we were performing better or worse than the stats suggest - I presume the club were and that should be considered.

Did the stats have us finishing better or worse than 13th?

 

[blue to the bone]

Are you lot really going to talk about this all summer?

There isnt even a rumour anywhere that he maybe going. But it seems people are convinced he is.

 

[Nymzee]

Are you lot really going to talk about this all summer?

Relentlessly I can imagine.

 

[tommytowne]

He signed off on Dibling, he signed off on them all.

I always thought that was the case until recently where someone elsewhere said it was Kinnear. Im happy to stand corrected.

 

[matty1878]

There isnt even a rumour anywhere that he maybe going. But it seems people are convinced he is.

he’s not mate the same person who told me he’s staying and £150 mill onwards spend

said we are signing jacky baby, john stones and ivan tony if he lowers his wages


i have said for a while im no oracle

and i don’t give a hoot if anyone

thinks im smoking crack

 

[coollino]

There isnt even a rumour anywhere that he maybe going. But it seems people are convinced he is.

Yeah I mean he has been terrible recently, and it should be questioned but he'll be here next year so probably better to just enjoy the summer (outside)