2025/26 David Moyes

I stand by it. They had a good team that was underperforming in the league and the manager quickly sorted it out.

My main point is not even about how good Villa were. It's how poor our squad is now. The level of Mykolenko, O'Brien (at RB), Tarkowski, Keane and McNeil is relegation battles. We're also having a 36 year old start every game he's fit together with two centre forwards that are nowhere near good enough to lead the line.

We then have Dibling, Alcaraz, Armstrong, Rohl and Iroegbunam who it's impossible to say are good enough due to a lack of football. Right now, if you had to guess, you'd say they'd have a tough time starting regularly for a team trying to get into the top 10. The sad thing is their stock is probably quite high amongst supporters due to the fact we haven't seen them on the pitch much.

That leaves us with Pickford, an injury prone Brainthwaite, KDH, Ndiaye and Garner as our standout players.

I just don't see it as a squad a manager comes into and has an easy time improving. It needs so much work, especially in the full back areas where the drop off in quality has to be the worst in the entire division.
Some people seem to properly underestimate the ceiling of this current squad...

Two good specialist fullbacks + a quality striker and, under the right coach, this squad could genuinely be pushing top 4/5 all the way.
 
My biggest worry would be the gap is small this season due to the fact the brand of pragmatic, defensive first football is all that Keane, Tarkowski, Mykolenko and O'Brien are capable of playing. A good manager can improve players, but a good manager can also made to be look bad by what he has at his disposal.

I personally think that Villa squad took over had more potential than ours does now. Understand completely why you disagree with that. I just worry if we get a different style of manager in and expect better results with a similar playing staff then we are on a hiding to nothing.

Think that's a fair comment.

But i don't think anyone is disputing that Emery is an elite manager above Iraola or Glasner (at least for now).

All you need to do is see the positives he's had on Watkins, Cash, Konsa, Buendia, McGinn ti see he's an elite manager.

But then look at Bournemouth, their breakout player of the season, James Hill who they had at Hearts/Blackburn in recent years.

There's nothing wrong with trusting experience but you need to develop what you have too. He got Villa in the CL in 18 months. Bournemouth might make the CL in 2½ season, with their own identity and i just dont see what identity we've got other than "satisfied", same with Fulham.
 
No, but its the same as West Ham fans wanting Moyes gone TWICE - And it failing and wanting him back.

Or the same as Spurs wanting Frank, then wanting him gone.

Or us wanting Martinez/Koeman/Silva.....then wanting them all gone, as soon as it got tough.

Our fans actually wanted Lampard...who was crap.

Some of us remember this, and are more cautious about stamping our feet throwing names round.
Not much of an argument, don’t make any changes Everton who knows what might happen! The fans didn’t want Lampard, they just preferred him to Vitor. Hobson’s choice. The fans aren’t responsible for the incompetent managerial appointments of Kenwright and Moshiri. West Ham have generally been poorly run as well.
 
We’ve been displaying relegation form for the entirety of the second half of the season. That’s difficult to snap out of the longer it goes on.

There should be succession plans for these players but it just seems to be to keep playing them every game until they decide to leave. McNeil may well stay now because he got himself back into the team. Keane’s already renewed, Gana starts every week still and has a year left on his deal.

I dunno, it's kind of impossible to meet this criticism. One more year for them, where they are actually utilised and we can get some value for their wages sound a lot like succession plan-compatible work to me. Surely we must be planning for successors at this point already, and we have a year left to nail them down. As we know, injuries and everything else are spanners-in-the-works which must be handled regularly, so hopefully our transfer team can focus on this and knuckle down now.

Remember we only got rid of the likes of Maupay, Holgate and Young just last summer.
 
Rita taking on 80% of GOT solo here. The other Moyes loyalists have mostly abandoned ship.

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