Not only that there's an opportunity cost on missing out on available better managers this summer.
preposterousvelios
Player Valuation: £15m
I think it would be different if people were just Moyes out with no idea what comes next, similar to what was happening in the past.
People specifically want Iraola/Glasner though and they're both available. Not the same as booting him for Lopetegui or one of our past managers imo.
No, but its the same as West Ham fans wanting Moyes gone TWICE - And it failing and wanting him back.
Or the same as Spurs wanting Frank, then wanting him gone.
Or us wanting Martinez/Koeman/Silva.....then wanting them all gone, as soon as it got tough.
Our fans actually wanted Lampard...who was crap.
Some of us remember this, and are more cautious about stamping our feet throwing names round.
Daytripper
Player Valuation: £50m
It’s the “look at that club” mentality that prolongs the inevitable time and time again.
It’s back to the “Dont want to be a Leeds” “Don’t want to be a Venkys “ all over again.
Again
Again
Again
Again
but it’s what ever TFG want so it’s on them
Perhaps we might just try not hiring crap managers? Like genuinely proven crap managers. Almost every manager we have hired has relegated teams, including our current one.
The only real lessons to learn are don't let Moyes put his stamp on the team cos you'll end up with the oldest squad in the league and 8th highest wage bil. Also, don't follow it up by replacing him with two managers who had recently failed previously in the PL.
They gave lopetegui 150m to rebuild the squad, we shouldn't be rebuilding nothing post Moyes
preposterousvelios
Player Valuation: £15m
None of those managers listed above have achieved anything on par with Iraola getting Bournemouth into the Champions League or Glasners trophy wins at multiple clubs. West ham consistently made poor appointments, Spurs going to Frank with a team built by Ange was insanity. In terms of our picks, Martinez had won a trophy but been relegated, Koeman was just living off his name and Silva while being the best of the bunch hadn't really achieved anything significant.
Just because us or other fanbases were misguided in the past it doesn't mean that you should just settle for mediocrity out of fear of change when there are genuinely good options available. It's like stubbing your toe and then deciding to spend the rest of your life in a wheelchair so it can't happen again.
Eventually you have to believe in the potential of another coach or its going to be another decade of Moyes.
kiss the crest
Player Valuation: £35m
We have the perfect opportunity in the summer to go for a manager when we are not in a crisis, its called ambition and planning, but NO let's wait until Christmas when we are out of the cup early and fighting relegation after are 0-0 draw at home v Ipswich who have just played us off the park.
its always the same Everton.
we are a nothing club
its always the same Everton.
we are a nothing club
I have named 3 managers we all wanted....hindsight is easy. Nobody is to know if a manager will be crap, nobody.
Iraola could be crap....he has a 10 game streak of not winning like this season, and half this board will be baying for his blood.
He needs to go DM - done a job of steadying the ship he needs to move on , but it is down to the owners - if Roma is their priority we are stuffed...
I think this is a bit of a simplistic way of looking at it for a few reasons.
Firstly, those West Ham fans want Moyes back because it's got worse since he left. It's easy to jump to the conclusion that it's worse because he left, but correlation doesn't imply causation. It's basically the same thing as texting your ex when you're lonely and saying you wish you'd never left because everything was so much better when she was around, but actually leaving her was the right thing to do, it's what you've done since that's the problem.
With the others, is that really what happened? Did we really want those managers? That's not how I remember it. Certainly the Lampard one is one of those weird myths that's taken on a life of it's own because some idiots claim they 'remember' it when they do nothing of the sort. People wanted Lampard when the choice was Lampard or Pereira, and we knew Pereira was being pushed by the parasitic Joorabchian and had just had a mental breakdown live on Sky Sports News. They did not want Lampard out of all the possible managers in the world.
preposterousvelios
Player Valuation: £15m
We definitely didn't all want those 3 managers...
This is my point....what on earth do you think has changed ??!!
Its the same stuff now being rolled out by fans....barely 15 months on from us being an utter car-crash of club off and all over the pitch.
Maybe...just maybe we don't throw another manager out, cos we want more sexy passes and unknown foreign names.....
Rumours were we approached him before DM - but Iraola stated he wanted to stay down south - a bit of Bullcrap I feel - we should make a move for him ....
