John from Bootle
Player Valuation: £25m
You do know that not every signing is made with the intention of them being immediate first choices? And if they're not first choice, then they're gonna get less minutes than the people who are first choice. It's not a difficult concept to understand. Notice how Alcaraz got more minutes before KDH came in? It's what happens, a squad player has shuffled down the pecking order because better players have been brought in - it's no big deal.
It's not even like we have Europe, so rotation is not something we really need to use that much.
nevsonlymate
Player Valuation: £10m
its nice for a 63 year old to be called lad now and again
nevsonlymate
Player Valuation: £10m
if we lost was it 9 players last season which depleted the squad and we only really had 1 to step up who we loaned out you would expect the players brought in would be expected to play more than the 5 have done this season especially with Afcon taking 2 players out for 5-6 games or again is that bad recruitment i know we have to plan for the future but if you are playing players out of position week in week out there's something a miss
John from Bootle
Player Valuation: £25m
Tbh mate, I only see dibling as one who might be considered a bad signing, but he's got time on his side.
The others, for me, were brought in as squad players. Rohl is clearly behind Gueye, KDH, Garner and Tim. If Gueye was Rohl's age, he'd be worth about 70 million, Garner is worth more than what we've agreed to pay for Rohl and KDH is now worth more, so I'm not overly concerned he can't get in ahead of those players.,
nevsonlymate
Player Valuation: £10m
im not saying there bad signings it was more about the comment that we shouldnt expect them to play i think it was more that we had/have a limit squad to start the season so why buy 4 players then bring one in on loan if you are not going to play them or at least give them more game time i think thats what people are thinking that he/the committee should/may have brought in players that he trusted obviously a right back and not have to play Obrien or Garner every other week there just my thoughts.
John from Bootle
Player Valuation: £25m
Agree on the right back thing, but as you've pointed out, we had a lot of holes to plug and we weren't in any position to only be targeting players who go straight in to the XI. Gueye, Garner and KDH are first choice. I've no problem with us spending 20 odd mill on a player who's effectively a back up. If we'd spent £60 million on Rohl I'd probably see it differently.
We also don't have a crystal ball. Another season might have seen us plagued with injury problems in midfield and Rohl would have been needed a lot more than he has been.
preposterousvelios
Player Valuation: £15m
Thing is as well, times have changed since his first spell here. At that time 23 was still genuinely a young player, and to see a teenager playing in the top flight was a lot more rare than it is now.
Was having this conversation with a friend the other day speaking more generally about the premier league, talking about how the average age that players peak has probably become more like 23-26.
Saka is 24 and played 222 PL games. Arguably the best player in the world is 18 and has been playing since 16. Dowman now making headlines at 16, Mateus Mané Wolves best player this season at 18. These are mostly pretty special players that you could say aren't representative of the majority, but I would still say this is where Moyes shows his age.
If we had Mané for example I don't think any of us would know how good he is as I don't think he would have gotten the chance to play.
Marcus Kendall
Player Valuation: £35m
Nothing to do with having limitless funds then? All down to Mourinho
nevsonlymate
Player Valuation: £10m
I look at the way we are playing at home to away and yes he set up away have proved mostly successful this season but we cant seem to get a tune out of basically the same 11 each and every week weather thats the transfer to being offensive , the tactics of Moyes and the opposition or flogging the same team week in week out and may be trying one or 2 players it freshen it up a bit, will he start George on Saturday or stick with McNeil , will Obrien get pushed back to Right back if both centre halves are fit again or do we lose Garner to Right back
John from Bootle
Player Valuation: £25m
George can't play against Chelsea mate.
All in all mate, I'm just happy with how the season has gone. We've improved and that's all I wanted. Not gonna lose any sleep because a few signings who mainly cost peanuts in the big scheme of things can't force their way in to the side.
nevsonlymate
Player Valuation: £10m
Thats what happens when you 63 you forget thing ? so swap Dibling then my point is its rinse and repeat home and away i dont think hes used the squad hes got fully at home and yes you can say that's in hindsight i wouldn't be saying that if we had wone 7-8 games but we look a poor side at home most games id just like to see him try something different like a players huddle around the Chelsea huddle for a laugh , Im not renewing next year had enough and im just not looking forward to wanting the game to end on Saturday but you never know stranger things have happened
Mate come on let’s be real here, he hasn’t done that with O’Brien at all
he’s only played him at CB when there’s been absolutely no other options in that position. Clearly he thinks O’Brien is a right back that can cover centre back in the event of an emergency, not the other way around.
John from Bootle
Player Valuation: £25m
I could definitely see him doing that. Would he have dropped Coleman though? If he had that John Stones now, then he'd defo be at right back for us, but not sure he'd have got many opportunities ahead of Coleman at that time.
