2025/26 David Moyes

[UTFT78]

We've no centre forward who scores goals regularly r even looks like scoring basically...same old story unfortunately

 

[MaximusEvertonius]

We've no centre forward who scores goals regularly r even looks like scoring basically...same old story unfortunately

It’s crazy we’re sitting at 8th in the table despite sitting 15th for goals as a club. Arsenal has almost as many more goals than us than we have as an entire club this season.

 

[Joey66]

It’s crazy we’re sitting at 8th in the table despite sitting 15th for goals as a club. Arsenal has almost as many more goals than us than we have as an entire club this season.

Its a poor league from 3 down ....

 

[matty1878]

Wake up, it has nothing to do with the strikers but has everything to do with how he sets the team up against these clubs.

ha ha goals win games you loon

 

[matty1878]

We haven't won a sausage in over 30 years and Moyes has been here for almost half of that time.

The reason we have poor record at these grounds is because of Moyes first time around.

“most” and he’s broke OT, bournemouth,
villa on his return

your mad if you think we need to change him to suit YOUR AGENDA

 

[matty1878]

also IF we drew yesterday which we should of you moyes bashers would of still
find a reason to moan

your like clockwork excited to have a go

vomit worthy

 

[matty1878]

let’s do it blues

 

[matty1878]

We've had him for 13. The hoodoos are very often his own personal work.

i’m talking now tho aren’t i

the hoodoos was here before, during after and then now ( some won’t ever go )

 

[Kevsleftpeg]

Looking at the quick highlights they put on Sky - we had the best chances & unluckily hit the post - they put one decent cross in & the usually reliable Pickford let us down going for that cross his one part of his game he is always vulnerable for - even then he just got his finger tips to it & blow me it hit an Arsenal player in his vitals & directed the ball to a guy 2 yards out - Title winning teams have that luck , but IMO Pickford should have either got the ball or stayed on his line he ran a long way out which is not like him - he has saved us so many times this season he is hard to fault , but that decision cost us a point -

Not impressed with Arsenal - with a bit of luck we could have been 2-0 up at half time .....we looked for the best parts of the game of scoring ....

To be fair I think they would have scored whether Pickford came or not. The problem was not stopping the cross in the first place. Arsenal are probably the least impressive team I have seen who are likely to win the league. Attritional dull football too

 

[Zatara]

Yup. I was at the United game and I was bored witless by our performance - and we were the better team. Early in the second half, Carrick takes off a midfielder and replaces him with Sesko in an attempt to win the game. Moyes waits until Sesko has scored to bring on Beto...

Yesterday, we played well. Beto was probably unlucky not to score - great save by Raya. McNeil missed the best chance. But you were waiting for the inevitable goal to go in against us...and like the buses we got two.

I wouldn't criticise Moyes too much for yesterday, but it's simply the latest in a long line of glorious defeats and hard luck stories that reinforce the sense that his mentality simply isn't imaginative enough to make changes that might win these games when they are in the melting pot. He'll sooner shut up shop and have us get deeper and deeper as the game concludes rather than taking a chance on an attacking substitution like, say, George. Arsenal brought on a highly-rated 16-year old. We left our highly-rated and expensive 19-year-old, Dibling, to rot. The man who trusted in youth won...

Fortune favours the brave. Moyes is a very competent manager. But brave he is not. And that needs to change if we want to change the record of honourable hard-luck stories where, in the end, we play the part of the scenery while Arsenal and their teenager take the lead roles, the glory, and the spoils.

It’s about matching elite mentality with elite competence. We can’t seem to find a manager with both.

I’d argue Martinez had elite mentality, he didn’t care who we were playing, but he didn’t have the competence to consistently back it up. The way we went for it v Arsenal at Goodison at the end of his full season is what you want though.

Moyes is miles more competent than Martinez is but he sees a sky six badge and immediately instructs everyone to protect what we have and see if we can nick it.

Koeman before he completely derailed was another one in thrall of a badge.

Silva never really said enough about anything to know what was going on with him but he couldn’t get anything over the line either and hasn’t in his entire prem career

Lampard didn’t really care who we played but just wasn’t competent enough to back it up.

Dyche just throws out the same formula every game, some times if it works and the opposition is poor you win like he did v Liverpool at Goodison and with Forest at Anfield. Sometimes you get decimated 6-0 at Chelsea. I don’t particularly think he cares who we’re playing though.


The issue is Moyes is never going to win 3-0 at Anfield whoever he is managing no matter how poor the Liverpool team is or how good his team is. Equally he’s not going to get pumped 6-0 at Chelsea.

The problem is though it just removes much hope. We’ll probably finish somewhere between 8th-12th this season, which is an obvious improvement. But we’ll look back on another season of only breaking the glass ceiling once which was away at United. It’s likely to be another season of no Derby wins, another season not winning at Emirates, Etihad, Stamford Bridge, Spurs stadium. Another season of early cup exits.

Once you’re not in the relegation scrap the mid table becomes very boring if every season there’s 12 games where you expect nothing, you can’t compete in your local derby, and your trophy chances are close to zero.

The results are the same at these grounds whether it’s Cahill Yakubu Pienaar in attack, Lukaku Mirallas Barkley, Siggurdson Richarlison Calvert Lewin, or Ndiaye Barry/Beto Grealish KDH.

We can keep saying ‘if we get a competent striker and some fullbacks’ but plenty of Everton teams have had two of the best fullbacks in the prem and at some stages some good strikers too and we go to these grounds and make no attempt to win.

In his first period, Moyes djd sign Yakubu, Johnson & Beattie for big money at the time.

If we budgeted £60mil for a centre forward then you'd like to think that some of the closer games would turn into draws or wins.

The same goes for the full back positions.

One thing though, we'd still need to see 'something' from the front four in terms of actual patterns of play which often seems forced and random. I dont think Moyes is the manager for that.

The Grealish scenario is another one. He slows the play down while Ndiaye speeds it up. We should have Ndiaye on the left side and use a 10 plus a right winger.

The setup imo is flawed, United under SAF were deadly in their attack due to high tempo play. With Grealish slowing it down and a CM in KDH playing more advanced it really hinders us as shown in the goals column.

As much as hes a 'fans favourite', Grealish is a Moyes 'type' where we really need Ndiaye left. I hope we go down the route of urgency, tempo, speed (of play) rather than slowing it down next season.

If we finish in the european positions then young players will have game time. He likes small squads and even Moyes will need to use all his players then.

With a higher tempo attack, superior players signed and KDH used as a CM I think Moyes could finish in the top 7 next season.

If were looking for player development thats through Europe.

If were looking for more goals thats through better signings and high tempo attack.

If were looking for better results in the medium to long term then that comes with a different manager...

...unless we get the key signings absolutely spot on and find a 15-20 goal a season centre forward + 2 assist machines at full back.

If he doesnt make Europe then I cant see much reason to stick with him.

 

[Bluepablo]

Wake up, it has nothing to do with the strikers but has everything to do with how he sets the team up against these clubs.

Actual goals scored is 34 against expected goals of 35.

We don’t create chances because of the team set up & defence first focus so we don’t get players forward to support the lone striker.

The only way changing the centre forward increases goals is if he creates his own chances like Beckford against Chelsea.

 

[Moomin]

Michael Carrick has the same amount of home Wins as Moyes this season.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Clubs in Europe have something like £800 million net more than us on players in the last several years... Everton are overachieving and only bettered by Brentford. There are clubs fighting relegation spending £500 £600 million ,more than Everton.

Moyes is safe!

 

[matty1878]

Michael Carrick has the same amount of home Wins as Moyes this season.

michael carrick has goal scorers

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

michael carrick has goal scorers

They have right backs that are fit and capable too...