2025/26 David Moyes

[BarryTheBlue]

Well well, if Dyche did replicate his 2nd season and not lead us back into the relegation battle, he might have deservedly see out the season, but in the end Moyes almost double the point output with the same squad in the same season.

No mate, Dyche had to sell Maupey and Holgate so couldn't compete

 

[blue to the bone]

I think he's a done alright in the circumstances, just his rigidity has cost us points and he has a clear ceiling on his ability to facilitate ambition. He should finish the season and then be replaced by a more dynamic less risk adverse manager

Where realistically do you think we should be in the table .
And where did you expect us to be in August.
Be honest now.

 

[jceverton]

One look at that list shows how desperate you were to get names on it. Price made 1 sub appearence. Mina wasnt even sold. His contract ran out lol.
Neal maupay

Nope, the point is Dyche/Thelwell had to sell to keep the club afloat. You've tried to deny that to support Moyes. All i've listed are the players that were sold for a fee plus a few of the first team regulars who left on a free. That's £153 million he brought in. If he and Thelwell hadn't of done that then we'd have been in serious trouble. Frankly I couldn't care less about Dyche, who was another average manager but it seems disingenuous to deny that he didn't have to sell players to keep Everton going.

 

[blue to the bone]

I also love this narrative that another manager will automatically make us better. In this league most flop. Thats reality. From last season what teams have really improved.
Brentford, Sunderland, Leeds maybe.
Villa will see in May.

 

[Gilbert..]

Nope, the point is Dyche/Thelwell had to sell to keep the club afloat. You've tried to deny that to support Moyes. All i've listed are the players that were sold for a fee plus a few of the first team regulars who left on a free. That's £153 million he brought in. If he and Thelwell hadn't of done that then we'd have been in serious trouble. Frankly I couldn't care less about Dyche, who was another average manager but it seems disingenuous to deny that he didn't have to sell players to keep Everton going.

DIdnt even mention Moyes. Stop making stuff up lol.
It was a reply to who really Dyche lost that affected the team.
Moise keane hadnt even been at the club for two years

 

[jceverton]

He also got European form last season with the exact same squad that Dyche had 1 point above the relegation zone.

Tbf I'm not sure most people are arguing that Dyche is a better manager than Moyes.

 

[BarryTheBlue]

Nope, the point is Dyche/Thelwell had to sell to keep the club afloat. You've tried to deny that to support Moyes. All i've listed are the players that were sold for a fee plus a few of the first team regulars who left on a free. That's £153 million he brought in. If he and Thelwell hadn't of done that then we'd have been in serious trouble. Frankly I couldn't care less about Dyche, who was another average manager but it seems disingenuous to deny that he didn't have to sell players to keep Everton going.

Do you think Dyche was on the phone wheeling and dealing to sell players?

 

[matty1878]

Tbf I'm not sure most people are arguing that Dyche is a better manager than Moyes.

Coz t therye is no argument

 

[BarryTheBlue]

I also love this narrative that another manager will automatically make us better. In this league most flop. Thats reality. From last season what teams have really improved.
Brentford, Sunderland, Leeds maybe.
Villa will see in May.

How many blues would have jumped at Frank or Howe before Moyes came back?

 

[blue to the bone]

How many blues would have jumped at Frank or Howe before Moyes came back?

He wasnt my first choice. I'll admit that. But he has done a brilliant job.
Gave us back our club after where it had gone .. does he frustrate at times . Absolutely. But the turn around in 12 months has been fantastic.

 

[matty1878]

He wasnt my first choice. I'll admit that. But he has done a brilliant job.
Gave us back our club after where it had gone .. does he frustrate at times . Absolutely. But the turn around in 12 months has been fantastic.

I'm same here

 

[Titus Bramble]

In the hunt for Europe after years of relegation battles.

Not bad really is it?

 

[BarryTheBlue]

In the hunt for Europe after years of relegation battles.

Not bad really is it?

He spent 100m though so we should be top

 

[blue to the bone]

In the hunt for Europe after years of relegation battles.

Not bad really is it?

NSNO .
Not good enough mate

 

[jceverton]

Under Dyche we could only dream of Europe, under Moyes he has made that dream reality.

And spent £120M doing it, Dyche had to sell his players to keep the Club afloat.

Who did he sell. Apart from Onana.

DIdnt even mention Moyes. Stop making stuff up lol.
It was a reply to who really Dyche lost that affected the team.
Moise keane hadnt even been at the club for two years

Here's the thread. C'mon we sold £153 million worth of players while he was manger and spent £79 million that's a negative net spend of £74 million. It's fair to point out the circumstances of the comparison between Moyes and Dyche and btw I'm not arguing that Dyche is a better manager because I don't think he is. The fact that you are denying the simple reality under which Dyche had to operate is frankly bizarre.