2025/26 David Moyes

It’s weird this thread. Supporters who won’t hear any bad word said against Moyes & believe we can’t change him at any point because we will mess it up & get relegated (as though Mosh & Uncle Bill are still running the show) against the polar opposite arguing he should go now highlighting the various deficiencies they see.

The reality is he is doing a very good job to get us to where we are now after the recent seasons issues.
It is also a reality that he isn’t a top elite manager although highly competent & experienced in the premier league.
It also a reality that he isn’t immortal. You can’t wheel him into the changing room in his eighties telling the team to keep it tight 🙂

The question should be at what point it maybe appropriate to change & if that decision is made then who.

Clearly the first pinchpoint is this summer when Moyes probably either needs his contract extending or a new manager appointing. I assume TFG would be giving this some thought, especially in the knowledge that there will be a number of high achieving managers out of contract this summer who potentially won’t be available thereafter.

Considerations could be the extent of TFG’s short/medium term ambitions, where we are at the end of the season, what Moyes may want & if any high profile manager may be interested in joining & what players if any they may attract.

I don’t think posters pointing out his merits or deficiencies is going to be a significant factor so it would seem pointless to continue going around in circles arguing about them, although some people may find it entertaining to do so! 🙂

.it's up to TFG to choose no matter

But they're not sacking a manager for turning the club around
 
Some fans have very short memories in here. Imagine going back to late 2024 and being told in less than 18 months we would be in the top 8 and looking at qualifying for europe? Every single one of us would've happily taken that.

Is he capable of the next level? Not really, we know that. But he isn't here for long term, he was brought in to stablise us and build a platform for someone else to take over when we aren't a complete basket case.
 
Some fans have very short memories in here. Imagine going back to late 2024 and being told in less than 18 months we would be in the top 8 and looking at qualifying for europe? Every single one of us would've happily taken that.

Is he capable of the next level? Not really, we know that. But he isn't here for long term, he was brought in to stablise us and build a platform for someone else to take over when we aren't a complete basket case.
If he was given even a modest budget in his previous spell he absolutely would have qualified for the champions league and won a trophy for us. We were extremely close but we had absolutely no investment. We lacked one world class attacker and squad depth. No manager in the world is consistently achieving a 4 or 5 place bump above budget. All this talk of a ceiling is just BS. None of the "elite" managers would do any better with us.
 
Ffs...." steadying the ship?" We will have sailed around the world twice before some of you show some desire to actually be a " good" team:) Im fine with plodding along with EPL mediocrity, putting money in the owners pockets and keeping Moyes, Irvine and their mates in jobs well past their sell by dates....just change the bloody club motto!
Utter rubbish , in my opinion
 
It’s weird this thread. Supporters who won’t hear any bad word said against Moyes & believe we can’t change him at any point because we will mess it up & get relegated (as though Mosh & Uncle Bill are still running the show) against the polar opposite arguing he should go now highlighting the various deficiencies they see.

The reality is he is doing a very good job to get us to where we are now after the recent seasons issues.
It is also a reality that he isn’t a top elite manager although highly competent & experienced in the premier league.
It also a reality that he isn’t immortal. You can’t wheel him into the changing room in his eighties telling the team to keep it tight 🙂

The question should be at what point it maybe appropriate to change & if that decision is made then who.

Clearly the first pinchpoint is this summer when Moyes probably either needs his contract extending or a new manager appointing. I assume TFG would be giving this some thought, especially in the knowledge that there will be a number of high achieving managers out of contract this summer who potentially won’t be available thereafter.

Considerations could be the extent of TFG’s short/medium term ambitions, where we are at the end of the season, what Moyes may want & if any high profile manager may be interested in joining & what players if any they may attract.

I don’t think posters pointing out his merits or deficiencies is going to be a significant factor so it would seem pointless to continue going around in circles arguing about them, although some people may find it entertaining to do so! 🙂
They are likely not stupid and realise that unless they spend £500m we are not going to be top 4 no matter who the manager is.
 

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