2025/26 David Moyes

I think there is a legitimate argument that we should move on to a more attack minded, progressive young manager, but it’s debatable when to do it.

What I don’t understand though, is the vitriol and disparaging comments and attitude toward Moyes from some people.

It’s completely unnecessary and also baffling given how this team was performing when he took over
 
I dont look at that as much of an achievement playing against farmers until the semis or final.

Its probably a league 1 competition standard, thats why i dont want us to be in it mate.
It's another step up the ladder, not sure how we can turn our noses up at any competition. How can we complain about the past and than they say we're to big for a go at one.
 
I dont look at that as much of an achievement playing against farmers until the semis or final.

Its probably a league 1 competition standard, thats why i dont want us to be in it mate.
Yeah, Villareal, Fiorentina, Lazio, Nice, Anderlecht... real farmers league teams.
 
Might not be as black and white though. The older KDH has undoubtedly increased his value, whilst the value of youngsters Dibling/Aznou has plummeted. We need the right balance.
Right, but how much more did KDH raise his value at vs how much more plummeting did those others have? I mean, value is what someone si willing to pay but I can't see KDH at much more than a couple million above what we paid for him vs Dibling can't even be half because of the AMAZING management of him.
 
You don't think that having brought us from one level to the next he deserves a shot at getting to the next level, even if you don't believe he can?
Honestly I agree with @JLW. He's shown the league for about 20 years what his ceiling is. He can't beat teams in the upper 3rd, he can't kick on when the opportunity presents itself no matter how open the league is, he absolutely will not develop younger players if the older ones are available, he is nothing more than a defensive first manager no matter what the opportunity is. Moyes is a very very very good manager. He's had COUNTLESS opportunities to kick on his teams and has never done so. It should be a handshake and best wishes at the end of the season but who the hell knows.
 
Not to mention finishing fourth here with a side that had no business finishing so high.
He sure did, once in his whole career, just like Allardyce got Bolton to 6th
Sean Dyche got Burnley to 7th

There is no evidence whatsoever that David Moyes is going bring this club to where we want it to be, why are fans expecting him to be different from the previous 2 decades? Everyone can fluke a season or two over long periods of managing.

He’s a mid table operator and everyone knows it, the difference is some fans are happy with that right now.

He had 11 years here with every player his 3 times over and he left with us with one sniff of a trophy against Chelsea, and done what he does best, bricked it!

I thank him for saving us last year and for making this season stress free but for me it must stop in the summer, I’m sure if he stays we will have exactly the same thoughts next year but with more fans wanting him gone, why wait?
 

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