WilliamBoo
Player Valuation: £2.5m
That's because he fully identifies with these two.I’m still going to complain if he pick’s Gueye & Keane until he stops doing it.
All good points but what seems to be the debate here is ambition(anti moyes) versus steadying the ship(pro moyes)I would reason with this with a bit of realism.
It has been mentioned that we all want to win every game, we all want to win every trophy every year. But, there is a sliding scale of patience.
Some are demanding near that now, some are wanting it now but realise that it isn't that easy in the real world. We can see progress and we want to see more, and also have different thoughts about how that can be done.
I am on the scale that we see where we are at, at the end of the season. If we are there or thereabouts for Europe, then there is no big reason to sack the manager. We would be showing that we are on the right path.
Oh, and don't change the motto as
1: It is even more important to use it. The last 5 years are far from satisfying, it is a but more satisfying at the moment but we all still want to improve, so the full satisfaction (nothing but the best) is returned. We should be aiming for the motto, not changing it.
2: I have it tattooed on my arm, so I would not be happy if it was changed
We are 2 pts behind the champions, in with a real shout of Europe and have a manager that has done brilliantly in his first year. We have secured contracts for our better players, invested in young talent and all while adapting to a new fantastic stadium.
I would say both ambition and steadying the ship are boxes that can be ticked.
Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £35m
One man's ambition is another man's delusion. Anti-Moyes are just deluded in my opinion. They expect Champions League quality on a bottom half budget. Like going into McDonalds and complaining your burger isn't medium rare.
Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £35m
I don't accept Davek and never will.
Generally agree. But it does seem like a long time since we convincingly won a game.
And even still, we are closer to CL than we have been for a long time. Not saying we'll get it but it does feel good looking up the table, just like Moyes said in his first interview that he wanted to be doing. He's delivered that!
True enough, but teams that win/draw with injury time goals are generally teams that are playing for their manager imo
Blue Roo
Player Valuation: £20m
Putting yourself in the not Anti Moyes makes you just as delusional.
He's stubborn, frustrating. I wonder what he does with Jake if we had a proper right back. I wonder wtf Leeds and Fulham were and wonder sometimes whether he's the Michael Keane of managers. A top flite footballer is our Keano.
I would still like to kick him square in the balls for throwing the league cup
I’d also like to know how angry kevsrightpeg is, and if he’s anything like his flailing raging partner
I’d also like to know how angry kevsrightpeg is, and if he’s anything like his flailing raging partner
BlueBarrow
Player Valuation: £1m
So what did you expect when he came back ?
I bet it wasn't as good as this , despite all the injuries.
Perhaps your perceived failings that the guy has , are simply that he knows the game better than you , as he keeps getting results ?
Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £35m
Mate, I wanted him sacked when I saw the team sheet on Saturday and after that first half performance. Thankfully I'm not in charge. If we had a proper right back he would pick him. We don't so he doesn't. We're seventh on a 13th place budget after years of relegation battles. Fans criticise every single manager in the world including Pep and Klopp. They always think they know better. If you're 7th in the table with the budget of a 13th placed team your manager is getting most things right.
Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £35m
I'm perfectly calm. I just don't put up with delusional nonsense. Someone has to check people when they talk BS.
Ok Dave
Kevsleftpeg
Player Valuation: £35m
Bit odd.
