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[Lobster Johnson]

M`lud, with all due disrespect i don`t have to give you evidence. The facts are well known although apparently not by the likes of you.

Have a look at the title of the video you posted. Note how it doesn't say Bristol

 

[Oddball]

I'm not sure we've actually established.

And here is what I said about a source you consider me to "set my watch by"

"I don't really watch the BBC for in depth news content - it's too broad brush stroke and influenced by the print media agenda"

What sources should we go by then? You`re really limiting what we can use "as evidence" to support our arguments to progress to any sort of conclusion either way. It seems you`re not content with anything "official" or independent.

2. My job requires an awareness of current affairs and an awareness of what official announcements are made in relation to national events - this is done through typically the BBC. I can't really avoid it, but it's limited in what it can report through regulation and the need to cater for all audiences. I don't assume the news ends with the BBC - nor should anyone else.

I would add "news" and "BBC" is an oxymoron.

 

[Oddball]

Have a look at the title of the video you posted. Note how it doesn't say Bristol

I know. Did either me or you get mixed up? I was trying to answer 2 things at once but i think it`s sorted now.
I`ll back track a bit to see if i can help you out although i did think i answered you.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

I know. Did either me or you get mixed up? I was trying to answer 2 things at once but i think it`s sorted now.
I`ll back track a bit to see if i can help you out although i did think i answered you.

One of us is confused. You keep referring to videos in Bristol, but I don't see any.

 

[Oddball]

One of us is confused. You keep referring to videos in Bristol, but I don't see any.

I posted one in a reply to you earlier-

Yes. I thought you would`ve known most of this stuff but anyway-
The statue throw into the harbour in Bristol

Edward Colston statue pulled out of Bristol Harbour

Black Lives Matter demonstrators tore down the statue of the slave trader at an anti-racism protest.

www.bbc.co.uk

The other was a link to a heavily policed anti-mask protest in Bristol

 

[Oddball]

Nothing wrong with listening to any voice in the debate. Independent journalists are essential to that. The key is working out the motivation of that voice and considering broader position (via consensus). Isn't that the whole point of the thread?

What criteria would you use to ascertain the motivation behind any given speaker?
...and how do you think a consensus could be arrived at?

 

[Lobster Johnson]

I posted one in a reply to you earlier-

The other was a link to a heavily policed anti-mask protest in Bristol

I saw the link about Leicester there from the Indian Times but nothing about antilockdown in Bristol. Can you repost?

 

[Oddball]

1. You seem to have picked the most extreme examples of talking heads possible. Particularly those who need shock and content to remain relevant. It's unfortunate that is how YouTube particularly works - but that's the model. More clicks so more revenue. Inevitably YouTube amplifies those voices. Nuance, balance and non partisanship does not sell.

By "extreme" i take it you to mean easy to evaluate.
Can you give me any examples of persons in the public domain who you find harder to evaluate.

 

[Oddball]

I saw the link about Leicester there from the Indian Times but nothing about antilockdown in Bristol. Can you repost?

If you can pop back a bit earlier in the thread today and look for me i`d appreciate it as i`m replying to different posts at the minute. Cheers ?

 

[Lobster Johnson]

If you can pop back a bit earlier in the thread today and look for me i`d appreciate it as i`m replying to different posts at the minute. Cheers ?

I've just done that. I see a lockdown protest video from london and nothing else.

 

[Oddball]

I've just done that. I see a lockdown protest video from london and nothing else.

What were you looking for?

 

[Lobster Johnson]

What were you looking for?

1/That was an anti-mask protest in Bristol showing a large police presence.

 

[Oddball]

@Lobster Johnson you`ve seen it already - you quoted me at 12.11pm today - what was it you needed?

 

[Lobster Johnson]

@Lobster Johnson you`ve seen it already - you quoted me at 12.11pm today - what was it you needed?

But the video isn't from Bristol, that was the point. I was just making sure I hadn't missed something.

 

[Oddball]

But the video isn't from Bristol, that was the point. I was just making sure I hadn't missed something.

Ah right! - it was a reply to @Jebus_lives showing a BLM protest with no visible police presence compared to an anti-mask protest with a heavy police presence, both in Bristol.
I also posted videos showing contradictory policing in London during 2 different demonstrations.