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Oddball
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I need to back off man, why didn`t anyone tell me who i was messin` with. you da G man, i`m cold lampin` out here sniffin` butts while you was down with The Crew all ova town and back down.
Me an` my Homies saw Solid, Romeo an` dem on the Haribo tour in `bout 2000/01 heavy man.
Oddball
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I disagree with you on all counts.
One of the recent discussions i`ve had was about Ahmaud Arbery - i still think he played a role in his own demise just like the recent shooting by police of Chis Kaba in London who had also been convicted of a gun crime. Yet the tired media spin on these characters is always "he was just turning his life around" or "he was training to be an architect" etc. Making excuses for criminals leads to more problems and the media is always at the forefront.
Another discussion- no one has given any answers as to whether co2 emissions should be reduced across the board. Apparently you should personally limit the use of your own car but it`s ok for Corporations` commercial advantage to fly empty planes. It doesn`t make sense! If co2 emissions are the problem then why not stop this practise. It`s a simple question but i`ve yet to receive a simple answer.
neil999
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DESTROYED!!!!! I can see the level of debate your involved in, its all about 'winning' and proving the other side wrong
Oddball
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Perceive it which ever way you want but i`m pretty much the only one on this forum questioning the fashionable view.
When Boris Johnson and Tony Blair are pushing the same narrative then i`m quite happy to go against the grain.
neil999
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What are fashionable views? And what makes them so?
Lobster Johnson
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Can you do that bit again but add the word "sheeple" and say "WAKE UP!!!" a few times?
Oddball
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Co2 driven "climate warming" is popular, it receives plenty of media coverage which makes it "fashionable".
The oxygen of publicity is vital for any "cause" One example i heard- back in the 1970`s the war in Biafra* was raging, their plight was largely ignored and it needed bringing to the Worlds attention (like when Princess Diana campaigned against landmines) The "List" of international personalities that would act as a patron dwindled, it left only "z-list" celebrities to pick from and Kurt Vonnegut ended up as the "celebrity" chosen to bring attention to an this conflict.
It seems that certain "causes" are deemed worthy of publicity while others are ignored so i`ll ask you a question - Who do you think picks and chooses which crisis we should focus our attention on thereby making them fashionable?
*I might have the wrong country.
Lobster Johnson
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TO be fair, a limited, local conflict lacked the potential to render areas of the planet (outside of one, very specific one) uninhabitable, cause a massive increase in the amount of extreme weather events all over the world and create resource and population crises.
Oddball
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It was an example and basically it`s the same principle.
Are we talking co2 emissions?
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Lobster Johnson
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Why yes. But as you don't believe in them, you'll doubtless have some other explanation for all these phenomena and our whole merry go round will start again.
Oddball
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It`s not that i don`t believe in them, it`s the way it is being presented to us.
Exhaust fumes are noxious gases but i find being told to limit my private car use a bit rich while airline companies are flying empty planes around willy nilly.
Lobster Johnson
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Cool. So your attitude is "you first"? Short of withdrawing my business (which I have done), or voting for green politicians, I can have almost 0 impact on the aviation industry. What I can do is limit my own impact on the issue through things I can control. Your (air) mileage may vary.
Oddball
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Not really because again, its an example. Empty planes are just an example.
If you drive your Humvee to the shops round the corner ten times a day and then tell someone to save the planet by using their smart-car less.....you get my point? It`s quite simple or have people been "blinded by science"
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