Council pushing for EFC & LFC as enablers to Open Outer Loop Line

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Merseytravel does not supply the money, neither does the council. If you read the thread, the Dept fro Transport supplies that. They would expect EFC and LFC to contribute to stations near their stadia. The powers that be have to present a case for funding. Two large stadia would give high passenger usage and run to top of the list for money.



Once again. they borrow. Please read the thread before posting, it is easier that way.

Everton don't seem to have any money whether its through loans or not.

Neither does the government - unless its one of their pet projects - which under a tory government is doubtfully gonna include Liverpool.

The Department of Transport is part of the Government right? ok.
 
Merseytravel does not supply the money, neither does the council. If you read the thread, the Dept fro Transport supplies that. They would expect EFC and LFC to contribute to stations near their stadia. The powers that be have to present a case for funding. Two large stadia would give high passenger usage and run to top of the list for money.



Once again. they borrow. Please read the thread before posting, it is easier that way.

well thats us f##ked then.
 
Department of transport was making £683 in cuts last year.

Good luck with this.

It would obviously be ideal if it went ahead and we moved somewhere.

For now, its doubtful anyone can afford it, or anyone has the vision to do it what with the philosophy of not spending. The banks aren't lending still, in fact they seem to want to recoup money, so I can't see EVerton getting a new stadium soon nor can I see the outer loop happening.
 
Yes you're destroying the planet as well as the outer loop.

I love the way its called the outer loop. Yer man that keeps harping on about it comes from the Outer Loop I think, of andromeda perhaps.

He's Loop Choowalker and is sick of the lousy transport options where he lives.

It's an electric car. It's bad enough I have to pull a bleedin cable out and shove it in a socket in the middle of nowhere.

I'm actually by the side of the road now. Run out of battery...
 
It's an electric car. It's bad enough I have to pull a bleedin cable out and shove it in a socket in the middle of nowhere.

I'm actually by the side of the road now. Run out of battery...

Can you use double A's until you get it to a plug?
 
Department of transport was making £683 in cuts last year.

But the budget is to be increased. What they are spending they are spending Merseyside as well with the Wigan, Huyton, Prescot-Liverpool electrification, which may go onto Merseyrail. The funding will get bigger as the CC recedes. Also the funding for Crossrail is near done. The Council are pushing it and getting all parties together acting as the driver. Both clubs need the luck to push it through. The Council have to get the two clubs together and think of the city as whole.

It is not me doing this. I am just the messenger.

  1. The Council know that if there is a commitment from both clubs then the Outer Loop can be reopened.
  2. Then, the clubs can get easy finance as the success prospects are much greater when served by rapid-transit rail - Arsenal's model.

One leads to the other. The council is the driver and the clubs the enablers.

It needs joined up thinking to push it through.
 
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But the budget is to be increased. What they are spending they are spending Merseyside as well with the Wigan, Huyton, Prescot-Liverpool electrification, which may go onto Merseyrail. The funding will get bigger as the CC recedes. Also the funding for Crossrail is near done. The Council are pushing it and getting all parties together acting as the driver. Both clubs need the luck to push it through. The Council have to get the two clubs together and think of the city as whole.

It is not me doing this. I am just the messenger.

The Council know that if there is a commitment from both clubs then the Outer Loop can be reopened. Then, the clubs can get easy finance as the success prospects are much greater when served by rapid-transit rail - Arsenal's model. One leads to the other.

It needs joined up thinking to push it through.


again,we're f##ked.
 
It's a little ridiculous this thing was ever mothballed really. I was always lucky to live on one of the major train lines and there should be more stations available.

Liverpool isn't always top of the list when they are throwing around new transport links though. Merseyside's population isn't exactly doubling overnight so I think this would be lucky to proceed.
 
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again,we're f##ked.

The Council under the LibDems should not have given LFC planning permission for that 60,000 stadium in a residential district. They could have been the driver initially and came out with this idea. The Council then, and LFC, obviously didn't have much of a clue.

Realistically a shared stadium is the best financially. The transport infrastructure can be implemented once as well. This is not going to happen. So two set of transport infrastructure is needed.

The best solution is get them to share the same transport infrastructure, even though they may be miles apart - that is where the Outer Loop comes in to solve the problem.
 
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No chance mate. It's got a removable panel for manual propulsion, similar to the flinstones car.



Nothing bus wise then? I'll stick to the car, have you seen how much it is to park at a station..?

Muggins are you riding one of these bad boys?

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Muggs on his way to the game.
 
It's a little ridiculous this thing was ever mothballed really. I was always lucky to live on one of the major train lines and there should be more stations available.

Liverpool isn't always top of the list when they are throwing around new transport links though. Merseyside's population isn't exactly doubling overnight so I think this would be lucky to proceed.

It is best you read the thread from the beginning before posting which you clearly have not.

Liverpool was offered a lot of money but never spent it screwing up the trams - Thank God they screed it up. Merseytravel has not presented any cases to the Dept fro Transport fro them to say NO! Even in the good times - apart from ding ding trams, which we got rid of 53 years ago.

The Outer Loop was to be a part of Merseyrail but a Tory MP scuppered it.

The Outer Loop was to form a complete loop of the city using the existing Northern Line as the western section and the North Liverpool Extension Line as the eastern section. The loop was to have mainline interchange stations at Broad Green (named Rocket) and Liverpool South Parkway. Only South Parkway station was built decades later in 2006. This continuous rapid-transit rail loop is ideal for moving large volumes of people as trains continuously run around the loop, or two sub-loops. An operational advantage of the loop is that if there is an interruption at any point in the loop trains can still operate.

The original 1975 plan for Merseyrail had a junction at Broad Green to take the eastern section of the Outer Loop into Edge Hill Junction. However the plan was abandoned. The trackbed of the eastern section of the loop is now the Liverpool Loop Country Park, a route for walkers and cyclists. Liverpool City Council suggested to Liverpool FC and Everton FC a stadium site at Long Lane on the northern part of the line. Everton FC have no firm site for a new stadium. Merseytravel are protecting the route against obstructive development.

Cost overruns on the Loop and Link tunnel projects, the financial stringency of the late 1970s, the delays to the parliamentary bill required to authorise the works caused by the objection of Anthony Steen, the Conservative MP for Broad Green on the grounds of the disruption to local residents, compounded to the postponement of the project.

Attempts were made to revive the project in 1985 and 2006 following the cancellation of the Merseytram scheme. However, the current electrification of the City Line would entail a cheaper project with one of the Outer Loops proposed interchange stations built, Liverpool South Parkway, the scheme becomes more attractive.

Liverpool City Council are attempting to revive the project and in a 10 February 2011 Transport Select Committee meeting stated they desire the eastern section of the Outer Loop operative using Liverpool FC and Everton FC as financial enablers
http://councillors.liverpool.gov.uk/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=10728&T=11
Liverpool City Council has stated, in the minutes of the Regeneration and Transport Select Committee meeting of 31 March 2011, that it is willing to formally discuss re-activation of the Liverpool Outer Loop Line with interested parties.
 
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