Council pushing for EFC & LFC as enablers to Open Outer Loop Line

[Inner-city]

How will the Council address the problem of an Everton board that lacks the vision or drive to deliver a new stadium project?

That for me and others like Black Toffee, blows this possibility right out of the water.

More negative attitude.

• The Council identify the NEED. They have. Two clubs are moving home to larger stadia. The transport, nuisance of the stadia, kudos to the city, economic benefit to the city as whole, benefit to the club which benefits the city, etc, needs addressing
• They are getting all on board, even Sainsbury's.
• If EFC board are uselsss, then this does not scupper the move by the Council. LFC and Sainsbury's are still in the frame.
• EFC would go along, especially if the Council identify a site on the rapid-transit line for them.
• EFC have everything to gain.
• EFC have had poor advice from consultants in the past.
• The EFC board do not have drive, as they went for the Kirkby project which indicates ambition.
• The Arsenal model is in their minds and this will give them what Arsenal have to a degree.

 

[Sharpys top lip]

I Love this cat..

Choo-Chooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

 

[Chang Elephant]

More negative attitude.

• If EFC board are useless, then this does not scupper the move by the Council.

Sorry about more negativity but what if the board are super useless, as many suspect?

 

[Inner-city]

Sorry about more negativity but what if the board are super useless, as many suspect?

• They are not useless at all, they went for Kirkby which is a big thing for a club.
• They need leading to water, the Council can do that.
• Since Kirkby, the world collapsed financially, but is now pulling out.
• EFC & LFC have seen the great success of the Emirates - in a depression.
• EFC & LFC have seen that Arsenal went it alone without an enabling partner.
• The Council's aims is a plan to get all involved for the greater benefit of all, and when plans are in place and presented the money will be available.

 

[GrandOldTeam]

Inner-City - your credibility goes out the window when you start picking at grammatical fault. Expect colloquial language on a football forum.

What do you stand to profit if this plan goes ahead?

 

[Chang Elephant]

• They are not useless at all, they went for Kirkby which is a big thing for a club.
• They need leading to water, the Council can do that.

My recollection is Liverpool City Council thought Kirkby was both a poor idea, and contrary to planning law.

Also recall LCC took Kenwright to water in terms of the kings Dock but the donkey pissed in it.

 

[Matt Damon]

• They are not useless at all, they went for Kirkby which is a big thing for a club.
• They need leading to water, the Council can do that.
• Since Kirkby, the world collapsed financially, but is now pulling out.
  [*]EFC & LFC have seen the great success of the Emirates - in a depression.
• EFC & LFC have seen that Arsenal went it alone without an enabling partner.
• The Council's aims is a plan to get all involved for the greater benefit of all, and when plans are in place and presented the money will be available.

I am laughing at this continued Arsenal comparison. FINANCED in the middle of a massive property bubble.

In the capital. Meaning they have eligibility to infrastructure improvement finances over and above other areas of the country.

Comparing a project in London to one in Liverpool is like comparing apples and pears.

The Council's aims is a plan to get all involved for the greater benefit of all, and when plans are in place and presented the money will be available

LLC has a TERRIBLE financial track record. TERRIBLE.

They're broke. It won't be financed by the councils.

 

[BlackToffee]

Liverpool can do the same by reinstating 4 to 5 miles of mothballed track and getting the clubs on it. Simples!!!!! Common Sense. The Council are attempting to get this done.

Read the negative posts on here. Many just do not want it. Amazing!!! A negative cancer has wormed its way into the once progressive city.

...erm, no, a negative cancer has wormed its way into this forum and we still can't find a way of getting rid of you. Thanks to Edge this has become a much more intelligent thread. I'm happy for you to insult me because you're as important to me as a pixel, but to insult everyone on the board who disagrees with you must be breaking more than a few house rules.

 

[Chang Elephant]

...erm, no, a negative cancer has wormed its way into this forum and we still can't find a way of getting rid of you. Thanks to Edge this has become a much more intelligent thread. I'm happy for you to insult me because you're as important to me as a pixel, but to insult everyone on the board who disagrees with you must be breaking more than a few house rules.

Agreed BT, when you said the board lacked vision and drive, that was realism not negativity. This guy seems determined to attribute some capability to our board.

 

[manxtoffee]

I am laughing at this continued Arsenal comparison. FINANCED in the middle of a massive property bubble.

In the capital. Meaning they have eligibility to infrastructure improvement finances over and above other areas of the country.

Comparing a project in London to one in Liverpool is like comparing apples and pears..

Been thinking the same thing.
Another point is Utd/Old Trafford does have train link right up to their ground, but it's hardly state of the art is it? Besides their link inadequacies and stuck out on the end of a industrial estate it's still packed to the rafters every game.

 

[Inner-city]

What do you stand to profit if this plan goes ahead?

The same as all of us. EFC in a stadium that is easy to get to and from and an extended metro for all of us.

BTW, there is a big difference between grammatical mistakes and childish unstructured writing - from someone who claims to be a manager.

 

[Inner-city]

My recollection is Liverpool City Council thought Kirkby was both a poor idea, and contrary to planning law.

Also recall LCC took Kenwright to water in terms of the kings Dock but the donkey pissed in it.

Liverpool City Council did all to keep EFC inside its boundaries. They are still doing that right now.

The answer is there, they now know that and are going for it.

 

[Inner-city]

I am laughing at this continued Arsenal comparison. FINANCED in the middle of a massive property bubble.

.....but paid off in a depression.

In the capital. Meaning they have eligibility to infrastructure improvement finances over and above other areas of the country.

Comparing a project in London to one in Liverpool is like comparing apples and pears.

NO. LFC or EFC on the Outer Loop will not give 27 platforms as Arsenal have got, but.......

1. 10 cheap, zip-up, concrete platforms will immediately shift 9,000 directly after a game if the trains are all lined up.
2. Fans on the Wirral need only go to the nearest Merseyrail station and have direct access to the stadium
3. One third of EFC's season ticket holders are in the Wirral.
4. The stadia is easily reached by rapid-transit rail from as far as: Southport, Orsmkirk, Hunts Cross, Kirkby, Chester, West Kirkby, New Brighton, Elesmere Port, St,Helens, (when electrified soon)
5. The trains run around a Loop two sub loops, so they just keep coming - what Melbourne do.

Is the penny dropping? When the club is doing not too well the gates will be high. On a freezing Feb night they will turn up.

LLC has a TERRIBLE financial track record. TERRIBLE.

They have a new administration. They will not be involved in the finances. They identify the NEED, then Merseytravel implement with Dept for Transport funding. This has been explained in previous posts.

 

[Inner-city]

Another point is Utd/Old Trafford does have train link right up to their ground, but it's hardly state of the art is it?

The Outer Loop will be fast high throughput electric trains not slow diesel chuggers.

 

[Inner-city]

...erm, no, a negative cancer has wormed its way into this forum and we still can't find a way of getting rid of you. Thanks to Edge this has become a much more intelligent thread.

That right. I take pleasure is shattering his posts. I have not insulted you.