Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[COYBL25]

My dad had the police round yesterday. Lives in a village in rural Cumbria. Moved the car off the drive to get into the garage and somebody called them to say "He's moved his car! He's not gone anywhere yet, but he's going to! Get here and stop him!"

Cumbrian cops are neither that smart or overly busy so they were there with flashing lights 10 mins later.

My mate who lives in a tiny village on the West Coast of Cumbria had something similar over the weekend.

He went out for a ride on his bike ( from home ) and came back to a waiting Police car.

Fortunately he`s an ex community Psychiatric nurse, so knows all the Polis for miles around.

The Policeman told him that they`d be been given an order from high above that all " snitch " calls were to be treated as a priority, even though where he lives in not in the slightest bit touristy.

Common sense is ringing out the bell.

 

[Sentinel]

what’s conspiratorial? To say I don’t like to see the state not allowed a free run, that’s not conspiracy theory stuff it’s democracy . I’m also not paranoid , other than some slight PTSD but thanks for the Concern.

I genuinely have no idea what you’re talking about but if you think it’s a valuable used of the police’s time , a police service also heavily effected by illness, to arrive at a house because somebody had ‘moved their car ‘ then yeah we’re on very different pages .

When you move out of your mom's basement and have a mortgage and a nice shiny car on the driveway, you'll think differently.

 

[xena]

It may be purely be coincidental (correlation not causation), but domestic violence has already jumped significantly in some parts of France since the outbreak.

Our figures will definitely show at least a 15% increase in many of the major cities, and with that figure I’m being very, very cautious.

The impact from this virus is going to last a very long time and in many different guises: socially and economically.

Me and the wife never argue and she never swears yesterday she told me to p-ss off not a clue why though haha .Its only been a week.

 

[Harryflashman]

We're not heading to a police state, c'mon Dave, you're a respected poster. We have a pandemic on our hands here. It's going to take extraordinary methods to beat it.

But it's temporary. Has some of the enforcement been over-zealous, maybe. But you have to look at it this way, folks have to stay at home. Yelling or issuing minor tickets is worth it in the long run. If it saves peoples lives.

I’m absolutely fine with the police stopping halfwits travelling on mass to holiday homes, those holding parties or gatherings in parks . Jack grealish and his party for example , perhaps they were too busy investigating the reversing car or dying a lake .

I’m not suggesting we’re heading to a police state but the actions of people should be questioned if they’re disproportionate.

Its not just me saying it


A former Supreme Court judge has likened Derbyshire Police's approach to the restrictions on public movement to "a police state".

Former independent reviewer of terrorism legislation Lord Anderson told the PA news agency: “Police in their words and actions need to be clear about the difference between rules and guidance, both to maintain public confidence in their role and to discourage snoopers, snitches and vigilantes.
A former Supreme Court judge has likened Derbyshire Police's approach to the restrictions on public movement to "a police state".


Police chiefs are drawing up new guidance warning forces not to overreach their lockdown enforcement powers after withering criticism of controversial tactics to stop the spread of coronavirus, the Guardian has learned.
The intervention comes amid growing concern that some forces are going beyond their legal powers to stop the spread of Covid-19, with one issuing a summons to a household for shopping for non-essential items and another telling locals that exercise was “limited to an hour a day”.

 

[Bluerover]

I was yelled at by a clown at the cash desk in Halford's Kilkenny three weeks ago. No signs up at that time but he ordered me to stand back 1.5 metres from him as I was paying . All he was missing was to shout " your life is in serious danger!!"

 

[Harryflashman]

When you move out of your mom's basement and have a mortgage and a nice shiny car on the driveway, you'll think differently.

Yeah mate that’s where I live thanks , bit weird because she’s dead But thanks for the reasoned input .

 

[Sentinel]

Common sense is ringing out the bell.

You've got to stay home. It's annoying and inconvenient but it will save lives.

 

[davek]

Surely your not suggesting that 'contaminated test kits' is cover for not reaching the 10 000 tests per day, never mind 'ramping it up' to 25 000 per day then 'ramping it up' even more to 250 000 per day? That would suggest a story put out to hide the announcement politics - not delivered like the other hundreds of announcements- of the individual who said that? Who was it now? Surely our free and fearless MSM would be onto such a ruse?

If it's the case that this govenment have offered false hope and it'll be another nail in its coffin.

Germany are testing 70,000 people per day. I'm not sure what the test is - swabbing or pin-prick test - but that's the standard this lot have to be held accountable to. No excuses about contaminated shipments.

 

[Neiler]

Something I've been wondering a bit lately regarding the testing stats (the ratios seem broadly similar across countries so isn't directly related to any country's response or testing regime). It seems common for around 70-80% of all tests conducted to return a negative result. Now, presumably there's a reason why someone was tested in the first place, which seems in many instances to be developing coronavirus like symptoms, or being exposed to those who have them. In other words, they're not just testing any Boris, Matt, or Chris that asks for one. So my question is, if people are seemingly qualified to warrant a test, yet the test returns a negative result, what is it they do have?

I'm curious because there are obviously a great many people who are self-isolating with coronavirus like symptoms that have no idea if it was 'it' or not, so it would perhaps be useful to understand if x% of those who have been tested actually just had some other form of flu instead, or whatnot. @Sentinel. You're the man in the know with this stuff. Any ideas?

Germany are planning to test for antibodies i believe and issuing a certificate to say people are free from knockdown and to return to industry, ive no idea is the test for antibodies easier then the test for covid maybe they have a captured audience as opposed to covid that is largely going undetected, but seems that what they are planning doing.

 

[aazak]

Australians have been told to limit themselves to buying just 12 bottles of wine and two cases of beer a day as a coronavirus lockdown saw panic buying of alcohol.

Major retailers agreed to enforce new rules limiting individual purchases as Australians went on a booze-buying spree amid a shutdown of non-essential services - including pubs and bars.

Australian social media has been awash with video and pictures of shoppers loading supermarket trolleys with alcohol in the face of lockdowns that could last weeks.

The restrictions come as data from the Commonwealth Bank - one of the country's biggest financial institutions - showed spending on alcohol at bottle shops jumped 86% last week as drinkers migrated from bars to backyards.

 

[Sentinel]

Yeah mate that’s where I live thanks , bit weird because she’s dead But thanks for the reasoned input .

Sincerely sorry for your loss. I know what it feels like.

 

[Barnfred 55]

I believe he was travelling back from Italy to his club in China so kind of makes sense for his club to get him tested.

Forgot he was in China. Was thinking he was still in U.K. Silly me. Outrage over.

 

[Harryflashman]

If it's the case that this govenment have offered false hope and it'll be another nail in its coffin.

Germany are testing 70,000 people per day. I'm not sure what the test is - swabbing or pin-prick test - but that's the standard this lot have to be held accountable to. No excuses about contaminated shipments.

As has been said from the start testing is where We’ll see the way out of this , or at least a way to some form of normality. Still feels a long way away at the minute mind .

 

[davek]

We're not heading to a police state, c'mon Dave, you're a respected poster. We have a pandemic on our hands here. It's going to take extraordinary methods to beat it.

But it's temporary. Has some of the enforcement been over-zealous, maybe. But you have to look at it this way, folks have to stay at home. Yelling or issuing minor tickets is worth it in the long run. If it saves peoples lives.

I get that. I call for discipline myself.

However, it isn't abstract debate or science fiction to project how such powers could be abused.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

My mate who lives in a tiny village on the West Coast of Cumbria had something similar over the weekend.

He went out for a ride on his bike ( from home ) and came back to a waiting Police car.

Fortunately he`s an ex community Psychiatric nurse, so knows all the Polis for miles around.

The Policeman told him that they`d be been given an order from high above that all " snitch " calls were to be treated as a priority, even though where he lives in not in the slightest bit touristy.

Common sense is ringing out the bell.

Possibly the same village then...