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Is there a source for this? Be interested into how this went from something available in days with 98% accuracy to something that doesn't work at all.
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Is there a source for this? Be interested into how this went from something available in days with 98% accuracy to something that doesn't work at all.
hirons11
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My wife works for the NHS (admittedly a Mental Health NHS Trust) and she went in for a briefing on Monday and there is a real variance in not only the severity of symptoms people are getting but also the extent to which each individual gets any of the individual symptoms i.e. you may only have one symptom or you may have all of them. Sort of makes sense when you see all the reports of people such as Fellaini being asymptomatic.
Tipp blue
If I agreed with you, we’d both be wrong.
I know this is going to sound cold and horrible, but somebody is going to have to weigh the importance of economy against the importance of trying to stop this disease spreading and killing people,
It's predicted now that Ireland will enter a depression with hundreds of thousands of job losses that may last decades, which in turn will lead to a massive increase in suicide as people find themselves in horrific financial situations. I would think the death toll from this virus will be miniscule in comparison to the amount of death from suicide and other financial issues such as not being able to afford health care.
www.thejournal.ie
It's predicted now that Ireland will enter a depression with hundreds of thousands of job losses that may last decades, which in turn will lead to a massive increase in suicide as people find themselves in horrific financial situations. I would think the death toll from this virus will be miniscule in comparison to the amount of death from suicide and other financial issues such as not being able to afford health care.
Covid-19: Dire analysis predicts up to 318,000 jobs losses and effects that could last 'for decades'
Financial advisory firm EY says job losses could be between 177,000 and 318,000 depending on how long restrictions last this summer.
www.thejournal.ie
Foot Long Hot Dog
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My comment was based on what I was told by a senior executive at an NHS Trust. They’re unreliable and thus currently not fit for purpose.
Foot Long Hot Dog
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So what are you suggesting?I know this is going to sound cold and horrible, but somebody is going to have to weigh the importance of economy against the importance of trying to stop this disease spreading and killing people,
It's predicted now that Ireland will enter a depression with hundreds of thousands of job losses that may last decades, which in turn will lead to a massive increase in suicide as people find themselves in horrific financial situations. I would think the death toll from this virus will be miniscule in comparison to the amount of death from suicide and other financial issues such as not being able to afford health care.
Covid-19: Dire analysis predicts up to 318,000 jobs losses and effects that could last 'for decades'
Financial advisory firm EY says job losses could be between 177,000 and 318,000 depending on how long restrictions last this summer.
NilSatisOptimum
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I know this is going to sound cold and horrible, but somebody is going to have to weigh the importance of economy against the importance of trying to stop this disease spreading and killing people,
It's predicted now that Ireland will enter a depression with hundreds of thousands of job losses that may last decades, which in turn will lead to a massive increase in suicide as people find themselves in horrific financial situations. I would think the death toll from this virus will be miniscule in comparison to the amount of death from suicide and other financial issues such as not being able to afford health care.
Covid-19: Dire analysis predicts up to 318,000 jobs losses and effects that could last 'for decades'
Financial advisory firm EY says job losses could be between 177,000 and 318,000 depending on how long restrictions last this summer.
Its always about money... It was never if a pandemic came it was when...
Government warned three years ago NHS wouldn't cope with severe pandemic
'Terrifying' dry run found various services were unprepared.
metro.co.uk
Get well into spring NHS bed pressures will ease off, and politicos will move back to economic thinking. Our lot tried to put economics first in the UK, however, there was such a backlash on various media outlets, I dare say they literally wet themselves.
tsubaki
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Or uneconomic thinking, as it should now be called.
Kenshin
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One fact that I haven't seen anywhere which I'm curious about.
Out of the people who aren't on the risk category who have been hospitalised due to getting the virus.
How many smoked?
You can have no health issues at all and be a smoker but the damage from it would then amplify a respiratory virus I would have thought.
Out of the people who aren't on the risk category who have been hospitalised due to getting the virus.
How many smoked?
You can have no health issues at all and be a smoker but the damage from it would then amplify a respiratory virus I would have thought.
Sentinel
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Can I put that in blunter terms mate. We have to look at the importance of the economy over peoples lives. That's what I'm reading and is that what you are advocating?
Kenshin
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It's true though.
You can only shut down for so long. There isn't an official no virus day to happen so you have to re open the country at some point. Virus or no virus, otherwise the implications long term will be devastating.
to be fair to the poster he mentioned people taking their own lives in his post . There are already people who have done so and the socioeconomic fallout hasn’t even started yet . I’m not advocating the removal of these measures but it’s naive to think we aren’t going to see the damage a huge economic downturn creates and that damage is a real thing just as the mental health impact from social isolation is very real .
As I say I’m no right wing free marketer advocating the removal of restrictions but as a society we have to be aware of the long and difficult road that lays ahead of us and if the poster wants to speculate on the damage and how it’ll impact on his country it doesn’t seem something that’s unreasonable.
The Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine are reportedly in the process of making a very reliable kit.
Sentinel
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The virus is going to be devastating. It's reverberations will go on for years. But we will get up, brush ourselves down and continue. Saving lives now is the priority.
Our systems of government and the people who inhabit them will endure. I understand your argument but it's flawed. How exactly do you expect people to go on their merry way, when family members, friends and co-workers have been decimated?
The only option here is to take all preventative measures to reduce the impact not some laissez faire Darwinistic, herd immunity, mumbo jumbo.
It may be purely be coincidental (correlation not causation), but domestic violence has already jumped significantly in some parts of France since the outbreak.
Our figures will definitely show at least a 15% increase in many of the major cities, and with that figure I’m being very, very cautious.
The impact from this virus is going to last a very long time and in many different guises: socially and economically.
tsubaki
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Thar is true, but it’s being pushed as the same sort of “we have to protect the economy” argument that has just led to us wrecking our economy, and by the same people.
To have a healthcare system that can begin to cope with this type of thing, or other big disasters, is going to cost money. To have a state that can cope with this and keep society functioning is going to cost money. To have workers who can get themselves and their families stable enough so that they don’t have to breach lockdowns or walk hundreds of kilometres home (as in India) in order not to starve is going to cost money.
However the cost will be far less than trying to do what our Government is doing now, panic and buy everything at its most expensive.
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