Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[roydo]

I purposely do not watch this nonsense on TV....

I have not listened to 5 Live for weeks now. No point really.

 

[Minimeister]

What - 'refuse to go in'? Are you mad

hahahahahaha. You could do this in 6 months and the brainless, selfish, hoarding gets in this country will slate you on social media for actually trying to stand up for your employment rights.

 

[ramacca]

Market forces aren't quantum science. Labor is a commodity. Just like oranges and apples.

It's up to you to bargain in a market what you believe your labor is warranted.

It's not 'quantum science' that at this moment in time, 'not going in' would result in the people we support not getting fed and not having their personal care needs cared for. If I was to propose 'not going in' to the people I work with they'd think I'd lost all reason. A barmy idea.

 

[ramacca]

hahahahahaha. You could do this in 6 months and the brainless, selfish, hoarding gets in this country will slate you on social media for actually trying to stand up for your employment rights.

And probably the poster who suggested it would be in the front with the pitchforks.

 

[PhilM]

That simply is not true. And I am not exonerating the German people here. The vast majority of them turned a blind eye to what was abhorrent.

What I am suggesting is you can make a population pliable enough, so that you can literally get away with murder. That's what's happening in China.

You know it. I know it and the world knows it and the reason it has been tolerated is because folks want cheaper goods..

It has to stop and it has to stop now because they are a danger and a threat.

Strangely, the evidence suggests otherwise. By pliable to do you mean complicit?

 

[Sentinel]

And probably the poster who suggested it would be in the front with the pitchforks.

No-one is suggesting that. It's called collective bargaining and I'm not going to walk you through the steps. But don't vent, bitch and moan about your pay. Unless you're prepared do something about it.

Suck it up brother, you're not the first or last. Unless you are prepared to do something about it.

 

[peteblue]

Market forces aren't quantum science. Labor is a commodity. Just like oranges and apples.

It's up to you to bargain in a market what you believe your labor is warranted.

Not now though eh.....

 

[Sentinel]

Strangely, the evidence suggests otherwise. By pliable to do you mean complicit?

But it doesn't though. There is absolutely no evidence that the vast majority of German populace knew about the atrocities you are referring too. Yes there is evidence that family members of those who worked in the concentration camps did, as well as townsfolk.

Is your argument that the German people were somehow complicit?

 

[mill]

Can't see 21m people dying without anybody noticing something fishy.

21m dead people cancelled their subscriptions?

This isn’t directed at you, more the people on the internet who love conspiracies.

Any conspiracies flying around as to why the stats in Japan are so low?

Culture is massively important in all this (has anyone ever read about South Korea and plane crashes?) but to think that there is a cover up of 21m deaths from China is pure Twitter rubbish (again not directed at you).

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

But it doesn't though. There is absolutely no evidence that the vast majority of German populace knew about the atrocities you are referring too. Yes there is evidence that family members of those who worked in the concentration camps did, as well as townsfolk.

Is your argument that the German people were somehow complicit?

Aah this old chestnut. They just never thought to ask where all the Jews, communists, disabled people, slavic folks etc etc went to. Nobody will ever have seen a train full of people pull slowly through the station or the trainyard they worked in, no administrator will ever have had to work on the quotas each province had to provide of deportees and certainly nobody around the death camps based within Germany will have smelled anything.

Don't be soft.

 

[Sentinel]

Strangely, the evidence suggests otherwise. By pliable to do you mean complicit?

Getting back on point. What I'm suggesting to you is that, you can make a populace pliable enough to turn a blind eye to the most criminal, heinous crimes imaginable. We have a precedent of that, which we are all familiar with. I'm suggesting that it has only just occurred in the past, but it's happening today.

 

[Jay]

Im not local and i was really worried about the city of Liverpool because of the game between Liverpool and Atletico with 5000 fans from Madrid inside 40,000 Anfield, it's been 18 days since the game, and things remained widely open for few days after the game before your government took action, i checked yesterday, only 150 reported cases in the whole city? I know you have a problem with testing, but no one is talking about any kind of surge in hospitals like Italy or Spain or even London.

In my country (Lebanon) which is a very small country but with 6-7 million people in it, we have 400 cases with 10 deaths so far, we are averaging around 20 new cases daily and all of them under control, simply because we have been on a lock-down for 3 weeks now, we avoided the community spread and it looks like Liverpool also avoided it.

For now, all we can do is sit and wait, Italy is ahead of everyone else and the lock-down IS working, the exponential growth has stopped for 10 days now and it looks like it peaked or going to peak in the next few days and numbers will then start going down.

 

[Barnfred 55]

This thread is heading in a dangerous direction me thinks.

That all depends which posters you have on ignore.

 

[Sentinel]

Aah this old chestnut. They just never thought to ask where all the Jews, communists, disabled people, slavic folks etc etc went to. Nobody will ever have seen a train full of people pull slowly through the station or the trainyard they worked in, no administrator will ever have had to work on the quotas each province had to provide of deportees and certainly nobody around the death camps based within Germany will have smelled anything.

Don't be soft.

Are you seriously suggesting that the German populace knew what was going on and cheerleaded it. That's absurd. Camps were deliberately placed out in the wilderness so their nauseous, deplorable actions couldn't be observed.

We can agree on many things here but suggesting a populace willfully allowed a genocide is factually incorrect and reveals a compelling lack of understanding.

There's many reasons why the Nazi's took power in Germany, guilt-shaming the German people isn't one of them.

 

[Tubey]

"Better" death figures today of course, but could be a statistical anomaly again.

As long as under 400 tomorrow we're tracking below Italy/Spain again.