Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

[Barnfred 55]

This really, if you have poor mobility or can only walk short distances like many older people and would prefer to do it in a park amongst nature surely it makes sense to drive to a park.

Thank you. Thank you. Thank You.

 

[Nymzee]

Common sense and not making a blanket judgement would be my approach i honestly think police would have it in them, i would hope anyway.

So what’s to stop everyone driving out to national parks to take a walk? (Which they were doing)

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Bless your heart

I dont get why you're being funny about it tbh - a virus that kills 0.5% of those that come into contact with it is a totally different kettle of fish to one that has the capacity to wipe out 10-15% as simply put thats when you can start talking about an armageddon scenario seen in Hollywood blockbusters.

Simply put experts believe whatever the diagnosed cases are that there are many more infected who we dont know about.

None of us know anything about this thing right now and we wont do until we start getting tests out to the majority of the population.

If it turns out the bulk of the UK have already had it - then simply put the outlook both short an long term is massively more positive than it would be if less than a million have tested positive for antibodies as simply put this would be going on for atleast another year maybe longer imo.

 

[Goat]

That “side” doesn’t include doctors and nurses in emergency rooms seeing patients up close and comparing it to their normal levels so I’d going to side with them that it isn’t overblown and stay inside tbh.

000s dying daily and we still have people chatting "its just the flu".

Amazes me how some people get dressed in the morning.

 

[Neiler]

Thank you. Thank you. Thank You.

I know where are coming from, everyone will have people belonging to them at some point, who are able to engage in social life or places, football stadiums are a good example but might need assistance get there, either due to poor mobility or the impact of walking a distance, its about pitching it right for people and not excluding it. Particularly, the sick, disable or older adults.

 

[Amw79]

It depends on the infection rate - if millions of people have had it and the death rate drops from 5-7% to say 0.5-1% whilst still awfully horrific it could be "worse".

Im sure I read in 2018 anywhere from 35,000-80,000 people in the USA alone died of seasonal flu yet no one panicked as it wasnt all over the news 24/7.

Simply put at this stage there is one side that believes the world is coming to an end and another that believes its overblown.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle hence why we need to start seeing widespread testing asap to give us more information on what we are looking at.

I said somewhere earlier in this thread that it’s very funny that lots seem to be of the opinion that everyone else is either over or under-reacting, while they are reacting in the precisely appropriate way.

 

[Neiler]

So what’s to stop everyone driving out to national parks to take a walk? (Which they were doing)

Common sense policing identifying older people, seeing people access their cars, road blocks, disability stickers, discretionary decision making by police, perhaps a park passing pass for the more compromised.

 

[Goat]

I said somewhere earlier in this thread that it’s very funny that lots seem to be of the opinion that everyone else is either over or under-reacting, while they are reacting in the precisely appropriate way.

Imo if you aint panicking at least 10 times a day you are under-reacting immensely and you should really consider panicking a lot more.

 

[BlueToff]

Yes. Well, actually, if todays' figures are maintained and carry on that "slope", we're about 13/14 days away, because at the same stage Italy were having 200 deaths a day and we've just had 260.

We were tracking somewhat comfortably behind Italy until yesterday and today.

Not sure if this changes things now?

 

[Nymzee]

Common sense policing identifying older people, seeing people access their cars, road blocks, disability stickers, discretionary decision making by police, perhaps a park passing pass for the more compromised.

I think it’s just much simpler to ban everyone from doing it. Like I said, we’re allowed out once per day to exercise. If old people like to walk they can achieve that going up and down their street they don’t need a national park which attracts lots of people from all over the country.

That, my friend, is common sense.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

I said somewhere earlier in this thread that it’s very funny that lots seem to be of the opinion that everyone else is either over or under-reacting, while they are reacting in the precisely appropriate way.

I tend not to comment on these things as you'll inevitably get those that deem themselves experts based on what they have read or watched on the TV.

Simply put no one knows anything right now hence why testing is essential.

1000 people in the UK have died so far with about 17,000 diagnosed.

Looking at it from a scientific perspective - if only 17,000 in the country have COVID-19 then its terrfying as basically 1 in 17 people coming into contact with the virus will die from it statistically.

However if 2.5 million in the UK have COVID-19 yet "only" 1000 have died then suddenly that changes the outlook of things for everyone - not just in terms of your statistical chance of dying from this thing but how many folk can arguably be let back out into public/work/normal life under the assumption that they are now "immune".

Thats the point many can not see which is why we need testing given to every person in this country its absolutely vital for us to be able to see what we are dealing with here - right now we are throwing punches in the dark.

 

[Tubey]

Not sure if this changes things now?

No that's exactly what I said. 16 days behind Italy approx. and the 260+ deaths today puts us steeper than Italy in terms of deaths on equivalent day, as Italy had 200 approx. 16 days ago.

 

[Neiler]

I think it’s just much simpler to ban everyone from doing it. Like I said, we’re allowed out once per day to exercise. If old people like to walk they can achieve that going up and down their street they don’t need a national park which attracts lots of people from all over the country.

That, my friend, is common sense.

Id disagree personally, but id have interest in empowering older people, people with illness and disability in my line of work.

But you enjoy a run, why dont you do that up and down your street instead of going to the park.

By your logic older people are denied the same right as you as they may need to drive there because they are less able to access it then you, is it not the moral thing to do to find a middle ground to empower the more vulnerable and less able, instead of having a blanket rule or a tough luck approach.

Simple have a park ranger at the car park do a person centered assessment and give the most vulnerable a pass into the car park, seems pretty easy to me.

 

[LinekersLegs]

000s dying daily and we still have people chatting "its just the flu".

Amazes me how some people get dressed in the morning.

New York had more 911 calls than it did during 9/11 and has doctors who not only treated Ebola but survived contracting it themselves saying this virus scares them and describing their ER like this - if they tell me stay home I’m going to.

 

[BlueToff]

No that's exactly what I said. 16 days behind Italy approx. and the 260+ deaths today puts us steeper than Italy in terms of deaths on equivalent day, as Italy had 200 approx. 16 days ago.

Sorry mate, misread your post