Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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Some degree?
Doesn't sound harsh at all - it's 100% fact. And i'm not sure why they aren't getting dogs abuse about it
You can blame the Chinese government certainly, and to a degree their society too. But there are well over a billion people in China and hundreds of millions more around the world who we view as Chinese by association, although most will not have been born there.

They aren't all to blame, but there are already many incidents of a backlash against them. I was mindful of that in my comments.
 
My car MOT runs out on the 17th April, I normally put it in a few weeks before it's due just in case anything needs done to it, I can't find a garage open, I wonder what the consequences will be if I'm unable to get it MOT'd, or does common sense obviously prevail here.
I’ll tell you now, it will not be the priority of pretty much any cop to report someone for an expired MOT during this crisis if they even check it at all.

Well, maybe Hobs will but it’s in their DNA.
 
Another 743 dead in Italy in the last 24 hours :(

As an aside - and for those who hear people talking about the Blitz spirit and whatnot - more people have died due to COVID in Italy than died in any one area as the result of bombing during WW2 (Naples suffered between 6000 and 7000 dead during the war).

The total number of dead in Italy due to bombing raids during the entire war is 60000, which at this rate of death is two and a bit months away.
 
There's still more to this - it's just not sitting right.

Now, I'm not saying it isn't a natural disease. And this isn't a conspiracy thing or anything.

But taking everything into account, think how much the world has changed in the matter of two weeks.

We can talk about social-distancing etc. Guys, this is social-coding, now. In a matter of days you've got people actively wanting to be locked away in their own homes, or making sure they're walking two metres apart from people. Or panic-buying, or thinking they're ill and self-isolating.

It's absolutely mindblowing.

And I'd suggest, and this isn't to take away from the seriousness of this virus or what it can do to people, that people also just have a stop and think about who benefits - not from the virus itself, but from the reaction of governments across the world to the virus.

Big pharmaceutical corporations, big banks doing the lending, any big corporation with a vested interest in, oh I don't know, war (obvious I know) which is likely to break out in third-world nations already besieged by disease and fighting etc. And even who benefits from what will surely be escalating tensions between the west and China?

Look, I don't think this disease was planted. I reckon they're right in that it was natural. But the collective reactions across the globe really do leave a lot of questions.

Just all feels like one big mind f*** - and proves just how easy it is to take total control/subdue a population.

Fear is a very powerful thing. Especially when you can combine it with people shouting at each other on social media. And if the last few years has proved anything, it's that people enjoy bossing other people around on a digital platform hiding behind a keyboard.
 
I know this sounds harsh but to some degree I blame China for letting this virus develop in the first place. Let them be our guinea pigs. We're not going to be in a position whereby we have driven down the new deaths and new infections to zero, for at least 5/6 weeks I'd have thought. By that stage we will know the medical outcome of China's apparent cavalier return to normality. This time let's make sure that we learn from it. And in the meantime close our borders to all flights from China, apart from those repatriating UK nationals who should all go in 2 weeks quarantine.

Absolutely it is their fault and they should be hung out to dry for it. The Health and Economic costs of this will be astronomical and the West should punish them economically.....
 
In reality, he drank fish tank cleaner. Chloroquine is being used worldwide to combat COVID-19 and with some early signs of success. Trump spoke inaccurately and too soon, but it's so revealing to see the media reaction to him promoting a treatment that is gaining steam worldwide. He didn't cause this man's death, and media sources all over America have retracted/corrected tweets/stories/etc. in response to the outcry ("fake news").

Chloroquine is dangerous, toxic drug. People in hospitals have died taking it.
It has barely started clinical trials. Stop over hyping it.
 
Its been the opposite here mate. Everything closed, other than the local garage who are obviously just finishing work on the cars they had over night, and food/chemists.

They were only letting one person at a time into Boots, so there was a queue outside. Or rather, 4 folk stood six feet away from each other! Got some stuff for my parents ok, then came home. Might be different in Bristol mind.
Pretty much the same in my local village. Nobody about. I went into Falmouth last night about 6pm to try and get some fish and chips, and it was like a ghost town.
 
You can blame the Chinese government certainly, and to a degree their society too. But there are well over a billion people in China and hundreds of millions more around the world who we view as Chinese by association, although most will not have been born there.

They aren't all to blame, but there are already many incidents of a backlash against them. I was mindful of that in my comments.
Things like this for example
 
I see Hancock is asking why the Tubes in London are not running at a normal timetable thereby allowing people to have more space between them, and wants them back at normal rates. He is absolutely correct of course and god only knows why Khan and TfL did what they did, saved a few bob and may have created major problems as a result....

It's something that is getting glossed over when everyone is blaming the government.

Khan and TfL have the say on the Tubes. I believe Johnson may even have pushed for that when he was Mayor, mind.

They have reduced tube numbers by more than half.
 
So as I understand it, the UK death rate is slower than Italy currently ? At the same point from outbreak Italy had 600+ deaths versus our 422.

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bit too early to say imo. Looks like we were on exactly the same trajectory until 5 days ago, but need another 2 days of below trend growth (urgh I hate using that word) to confirm that we have slowed it. I'm hopeful, but there could easily be a large jump in a day or two, just depending on how the weekends fall in the timeline etc.
 
Fully understand the point of the host there , completely right.

If a 75 year old woman isn't arsed about dying though then who is anyone else to tell them otherwise?

I guess the other side of the argument, which will be in its minority certainly is that elderly may not care if they don't want to spend their days stuck in the house in fear of a virus. If she doesn't care about getting the virus then let her move about and die. I'd be more heavy on those who probably wouldn't die from it doing the same.
Would you be happy if the mad bitch infected one of your family?
 
I see Hancock is asking why the Tubes in London are not running at a normal timetable thereby allowing people to have more space between them, and wants them back at normal rates. He is absolutely correct of course and god only knows why Khan and TfL did what they did, saved a few bob and may have created major problems as a result....
Maybe due to the self isolations TFL had to cut services. Once advice went to any new new cold like symptoms within the family unit, I would imagine many work forces were depleted over night!
 
Anyway, seen a lot of posts on social media today by people saying that 'the streets are busier than ever'.

I can only go off what I've seen today but that certainly hasn't been the case where I've been. Only time there has been a line of more than one or two cars is because there's some temporary traffic lights around the corner.
 
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