Current Affairs Coronavirus Thread - Serious stuff !!!

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My car MOT runs out on the 17th April, I normally put it in a few weeks before it's due just in case anything needs done to it, I can't find a garage open, I wonder what the consequences will be if I'm unable to get it MOT'd, or does common sense obviously prevail here.
 
My car MOT runs out on the 17th April, I normally put it in a few weeks before it's due just in case anything needs done to it, I can't find a garage open, I wonder what the consequences will be if I'm unable to get it MOT'd, or does common sense obviously prevail here.
I've read that MOTs on commercial vehicles have been relaxed/suspended for now, and that a statement will be made on non-commercial vehicles soon (or words to that effect)
From BBC Website:-
Garages are allowed to remain open under the new restrictions. MOTs have been suspended for lorries, buses and trailers for up to three months, and MOT testing for cars, motorcycles and light vans is under review.
The Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) has also suspended driving and motorcycle tests in England, Scotland and Wales for up to three months from 21 March 2020, except for critical workers.
All practical driving tests are also currently suspended in Northern Ireland until 22 June 2020.
 
Camra`s stance on this will be very interesting, as you know, you receive £20 worth of Spoons vouchers with your membership.

If Camra continue to support them, I won`t be renewing my membership until they revoke their support.

I`m not a massive fan of the places anyway, as their beer is always too cold, which tells me that they want to squeeze every last drop out of the cask, regardless of the taste.

I certainly won`t be going in one of their places ever again after this regardless.
If you start excluding products from every company that made what you thought to be wrong or immoral decisions you'll quickly find yourself without food, furniture -- and medicines.
 
My car MOT runs out on the 17th April, I normally put it in a few weeks before it's due just in case anything needs done to it, I can't find a garage open, I wonder what the consequences will be if I'm unable to get it MOT'd, or does common sense obviously prevail here.
The problem with common sense is that it's not very common, There'll end up being loads of things where you'll be told by one authority you can't do it but then punished by another for not doing it.
 
If you start excluding products from every company that made what you thought to be wrong or immoral decisions you'll quickly find yourself without food, furniture -- and medicines.

no argument but excluding ones where a greedy multi millionaire openly shafts his staff in the middle of a national crisis feels like an easy decision .
 
If you start excluding products from every company that made what you thought to be wrong or immoral decisions you'll quickly find yourself without food, furniture -- and medicines.
You don't have to do it all in one go mate, and we're talking about beer from spoons.
 
I've read that MOTs on commercial vehicles have been relaxed/suspended for now, and that a statement will be made on non-commercial vehicles soon (or words to that effect)
From BBC Website:-
Garages are allowed to remain open under the new restrictions. MOTs have been suspended for lorries, buses and trailers for up to three months, and MOT testing for cars, motorcycles and light vans is under review.
The Driver and Vehicle Standards Agency (DVSA) has also suspended driving and motorcycle tests in England, Scotland and Wales for up to three months from 21 March 2020, except for critical workers.
All practical driving tests are also currently suspended in Northern Ireland until 22 June 2020.

Cheers mate.
 
I really hope this is sorted in the next 12 weeks as if its not society and the governments will have some serious moral/ethical questions to answer not just in the UK but worldwide.

1. At what point do you have to open back up life/society/economy/businesses/shops regardless of the threat of spread?

2. Is it ethical to keep people especially the vulnerable locked away for longer than 12 weeks?

3. Is it moral to deny children their education long term / accept economic collapse and potential mass job loss and business closure to try continue in saving the sick and elderly who have already lived a long life?

4. If it came to potential mass job loss / business closures - what would be available for those people and would working folk need to subsidise this via increased taxes?

So many potential awful scenario's that this thing could push the world to.
At last, someone raising the longer term issues. I would add another -- what can be done to compensate the massive hit on prospective occupational pensions in the light of the damage being inflicted on pension funds. One thing we can guarantee is point 4 -- taxes will have to raised, along with NIC and a whole range of charges for other publicly provided goods and services for many years to come. What the government is doing now is not a free lunch for anyone. To be ignoring the long term economic (and for that matter social) cost of government interventions in trying to control the virus is just as 'head in the sand' as ignoring what might be round the corner in respect of the impact of the virus itself.
The mind boggles once you start considering the likely longer term implications for specific policies - eg will HS2 go ahead be reversed so as to save government (ie us) £100bn, and have we now got to resign ourselves to government kicking reform of the care home financing system into the long grass?
 
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In his London Playbook briefing Politico Europe’s Jack Blanchard has a telling anecdote about government policy on coronavirus testing. Blanchard writes:

As fast as possible?’ Playbook has just been passed an email sent by a senior Downing Street aide on Sunday afternoon to UK research institutes asking to borrow more of the expensive pieces of kit required to carry out Covid-19 tests. “We urgently need to scale up testing,” states the email from No 10, which was sent to a number of institutions around the UK. “There is only a limited supply of these machines, so the PM is making an urgent appeal for you to lend us your machine(s) for the duration of the crisis. We will meet all expenses and assume all liabilities and requirements associated with the use of these machines for this purpose. We undertake to return or replace the equipment when the emergency is over. We would very much like to collect any machines you have tomorrow (Mon 23) or Tuesday.”
And there’s more: An attached letter from Boris Johnson says plainly that “there are no machines available to buy,” and that the “urgent appeal” is therefore “in the national interest.” He adds that “if you have any staff who are experienced in using the machines … that would also be very helpful.”
Time is of the essence: To repeat, this call went out from No. 10 on Sunday afternoon. “It’s great that they are ramping up testing,” Playbook’s source within the research sector emails to say. “But it should have been done weeks ago. This is costing lives every day.” You won’t need reminding that the government was warned many weeks ago that if the virus escaped out of China, a global pandemic could be on the cards".

Too little, too late from Johnson who fiddles while the country suffers.
 
At last, someone raising the longer term issues. One thing we can guarantee is point 4 -- taxes will have to raised, along with NIC and a whole range of charges for other publicly provided goods and services for many years to come. What the government is doing now is not a free lunch for anyone. To be ignoring the long term economic (and for that matter social) cost of government interventions in trying to control the virus is just as 'head in the sand' as ignoring what might be round the corner in respect of the impact of the virus itself.

Indeed. There will be a massive financial reckoning when this is over, and the same people demanding the shutdown of everything will be the first to complain when the bill comes through.....
 
I wouldn't be surprised if building sites were closed down tonight. He did retail yesterday and that's done little to affect tube demand.
He needs to make an announcement on help for self employed a lot of builders are self employed im one of them .I dont want to go work but can't afford not to.Its like playing Russian roulette.
 
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